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Reminder that if you bring ableism into this instance you can fuck right off (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 days ago by Dort_Owl@hexbear.net to c/effort@hexbear.net

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I probably shouldn't be making this post. I hate getting involved struggle session highschool drama shit and I won't even point to specific evidence because frankly this shit depresses me. But here goes:

This might be a "wtf are you ranting about, Owl?" moment but there are some serious reactionary vibes in this place sometimes. Maybe it's a holdover from the dirtbag leftist era, I don't know, but it's gross. I see it trying to worm its way in here and it's a bad sign

If you ever catch yourself using the kind of shitty othering and ableism you'd see on stupidpol or a 2016 cringe compilation, go do some self crit or fuck right off

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[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This sort of thing is why the PSL makes you take a bunch of classes and read a bunch of theory before you can become a full member.

[–] Moidialectica@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

Theory does help, but I also think people need to engage in counter factuals and learn their parallels in history and actually try to engage in analysis themselves even if flawed at first

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do you think we would need a clearer idea of what and who hexbear is for in order for HB to do something in approximately the ball park of that type of thing? Or do you perhaps think Hexbear is not very suited to that kind of thing?

At its best hexbear feels unified and reliably safe. At its worst hexbear feels like r/CTH when we were all still trying to figure out how dirtbag we could be without inadvertently reinforcing chauvinism and bigotry.

What I've been wondering is if this is an oscillation that is necessary and ongoing, or if it is necessary and slowing down rapidly, or entirely unnecessary.

I fear that people burn out on the constant microaggressions and we lose the pool of posters who are really talented at educating the userbase. So then we have a corrective force that incrementally loses to the status quo over time, instead of maintaining its high energy and effectiveness at correcting the culture when it gets complacent and self righteously defensively wrong on a regular basis.

[–] Grebgreb@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Do you think we would need a clearer idea of what and who hexbear is for in order for HB to do something in approximately the ball park of that type of thing?

Yes and this was something I brought up in 2024. In late 2025 I saw a hexbear mod act really weird and gross/creepy, wasting around an hour just rambling on about pedophilia while everybody else ignored them, before blurting out what I assume was supposed to be a joke about the idf killing children (?). The fact that this user is a mod on the same site as Carcosa and Awoo is mind boggling, and I feel this has to be at least partially the result of nobody having a clear direction in mind for hexbear.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a level of discipline you could maintain outside of a revolutionary project that's doing work in the real world.

[–] boboblaw@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Closest I've seen is back when TC69 was bullying people into doing a reading group to correct their unexamined transphobia.