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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Even if it's open for a couple of weeks, no ships will sail, because the insurance companies won't cover until the war is fully over, and without insurance they can't dock anywhere or do anything.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

There is no ceasefire

[–] Tarambor@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (8 children)

What Trump has agreed to....

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

so we lost lost all progress in limiting irans ability to create nuclear weapons in order to stop them from creating unuclear weapons. Well thats definately all trumped up.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 day ago (8 children)

So basically the US lost is what I'm reading here. Not even a ceasefire just a straight defeat.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 day ago

Look, let Trump save face. Let him gloat that he won. It's better than him bombing innocent people.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Not even a ceasefire just a straight defeat.

Probably why it won't last, or at least violated several times.

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Wouldn't be the first time they mask loss

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wait what ahaha seriously? this is going to be the most "we actually lost" victory Trump is going to declare. can't wait for him to call this "deal" (no lmao) a peaceful cessation of power and a success. iran couldn't get more out of this if they tried.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

It reminds me of that scene from the newer All Quiet On The Western Front when the diplomats negotiated an end to WWI.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 25 points 1 day ago

Do we have a source for this?

Trump will start to walk back on this the second they sit down and possibly offer "personal gains" they just cant refuse. Iran will just walk out and all this shit will continue.

[–] knotRyder@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So this 2 weeks is just them ending it and it's over and we're just going to forget about it because that's how the new cycle works and then this never happened Jesus f****** Christ murica lost again but the billionaires won cuz they made money on this by rug pulling the world's economy why do we live in capitalism so people can do this

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, I think some good came out of this. Mostly evil, but some good.

I'm looking at (used) EVs seriously now. I'm betting a lot of other people are also trying to move to EVs after the nth price shock in x years. This one went at least as bad here as the start of the Ukraine war.

Also there are now politicians in Germany initiating discussions about restarting some of the nuclear plants if possible. My own country sadly isn't too progressive on these issues, most people want shale rock to be brought back rather than additional wind turbines being built, since there were some points during the winter where there was no wind when it was really cold and electric prices shot through the roof.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

why are we destroying our environment with shale rock when we can destroy our environment with hydroelectric and get waterskiing out of it

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago

We've already dammed the like 3 rivers we have. We just don't really have any major ones here :/

We do have copious amounts of shale rock and it's pretty much the only natural resource we have that's worth the money to mine. Which is why a lot of people aren't happy about reducing it.

But even fossil fuels aren't as reliable as people seem to think. The fancy new shale rock generator has been down as much as it has been up. They keep investing more money into it. Yay taxes.

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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 79 points 1 day ago (16 children)

The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives

Ok, so you don't need a ceasefire, you need to just fucking leave.

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 day ago (24 children)
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[–] Cooltag@lemmy.org 5 points 1 day ago

Well, it's still a bloodthirsty imperialist...

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

The ubiquitous two more weeks.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What bothers me is that the Iranians seem to take this bait literally without being too critical. They're basically saying that they're ready to open the strait right away for negotiations to happen, even when Trump bombed their country during the previous ones. I think they will come to regret this.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

Take the bait? Look, playing chess with a pigeon is difficult. Given the terms listed out, someone took bait, but I don't think it was Iran.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do they have to lose though? The moment the US starts bombing again the missiles start to fly. It’s tit for tat. That’s been their strategy this whole time. I don’t think they expect the US to take negotiations seriously at all.

I do however think Iran wants to appear reasonable to the rest of the world. Under the ceasefire, they still expect other countries to coordinate with them to get ships through. That was already happening prior to the ceasefire but now it’s clear that’s what they expect from everyone. They’re forcing the world to acknowledge Iranian sovereignty over the strait which is a pretty serious win if they can keep it.

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[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe Iran will commit to the ceasefire in the same way Israel committed to the Gaza ceasefire?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Other way around. Israel will commit to this ceasefire like they committed to the Gaza ceasefire.

Edit: yeah https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-continuing-to-strike-in-iran-despite-ceasefire-announcement-security-official-tells-toi/

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Yes someone needs to warn the Iranians that this administration doesn't always negotiate in good faith, they're clearly not aware of that possibility.

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