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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you went through a Taco Bell drive through, you'd still be "driving to Taco Bell" even though you just drove around the building and never went inside.

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

People keep mentioning this but isn't it more of a definition of to and towards?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

It's more about intention. You went there, you did some stuff, and you came home. It's not like they're going somewhere else and just happened to end up by the moon, the point of the trip is a lunar flyby and they made it. Hence, moon mission.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's how language works.

We are flying to the moon, not to land on it, but to orbit it. That's still to the moon. We're not flying to the sun, or flying to mars. We're flying to the moon.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Because we're flying to the moon.

Plus from a news standpoint it sells better than to say "around".

Don't get hungup on this, it's just part of the process of eventually landing.

Would you say Voyager didn't go to Jupiter because it didn't land?

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago

No I would say Voyager is doing a Flyby....sorry kind of nerd came out.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's Apollo 8, but with 60 more years of experience, more computer power than the entire world had at the time, and 10,000x the budget.

They are only going back to what they should have been doing in the 70s. I'm happy they are finally doing it, but I never understood why they abandoned it in the first place.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 25 points 2 days ago

Cuz they are going to the moon, they just aren't going to go on the moon.

[–] mech@feddit.org 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When I say I'm going to a football game, I'll sit at some distance and watch it, not walk on the pitch.
Same thing here.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

Being 5000 miles away you won't see much.

It's a shuttle run. More literally than usual.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Am I visiting (going to) Yosemite, or driving around it?

Did you visit the grand canyon if you did not go to the bottom but only stood on the rim?

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did you visit the grand canyon if you did not go to the bottom but only stood on the rim?

Yes. Did you visit it if you flew over it on a commercial flight?

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Much more similar to a chartered helicopter flight, which are quite popular at the Grand Canyon.

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Because some people in this world are mentally normal and use language in mentally normal ways.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

The moon is far away. Like really far away. They ISS is hard to get to, and the moon is 1000x farther away. So, just getting far enough to swoop around and come back is an achievement in its own right.

Also, it is part of a series of missions that will culminate in humans walking on the surface of the moon once again.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

It's not actually flying per se, more like a very complicated falling with style.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Why would they say we are flying around it when this is a flyby mission?

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

If martians flew around the earth they would be flying to earth.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like Operation Epstein Fubar, it's all distraction-theatre.

"See how GREAT we are??" "accomplishment", while gutting the government & bombing hospitals & universities, for sake of getting the Epstein files off of the criminals named in them.

( & getting the heat off of the "DOJ" which admitted to shredding some of them, holding-back 47k of them, etc )

( & getting the heat off the ICE quota-based-deportations regime )

etc.

Artemis is an immense waste of money.

Worse, it's got a fundamental design-flaw which means if any of its 4 main-engines "anomaly" during takeoff, then the mission's at-least destroyed, possibly killed.

Notice that with SpaceX's rockets, you can have an engine-anomaly & it'll just make the launch more-difficult?

There are sooo many engines, that each-engine's % of the work is small-enough, that the rest can carry it, if 1 fails.

With Artemis?

ANY engine which fails, & the mission's DEAD.

They engineered it to be incapable of dealing-with such statistically-inevitable failures.

That's irresponsible, in my eyes.

Falcon9 & Starship both have loads of engines, & can deal with 1-failure, properly.

Why go against sane engineering-principles?

Because the point of the thing is institutional validation, not optimal use-of-resources.

As Feynman grated against, last century, it's simply the wrong culture that's running the show.

Business-culture instead of engineering-culture, was what killed people in the shuttlecraft..

Artemis is produced by institutionality-instead-of-right-engineering, from what I can see.. & NASA's having about 1/4 of its budget gutted immediately, so .. Artemis gets funded, but NASA's real missions get discarded?

Theatre, not NASA work.

< shrug >

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Plus there’s the issue that they’ve been struggling to launch more frequently than every two years. If something happens, everyone is stranded where they are, and it’s not like anyone on the moon could survive there an extra two years.

While I see the reasoning for Artemis in the beginning, it’s been clear for years that it’s a poor choice

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We are going to the moon. Artemis II is going to bring humans further from earth than any human has ever been, and doing a drive by like this is part of the process of landing on the moon

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

doing a drive by

GTA 6: Moon DLC confirmed?!

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Further how? I've admittedly not looked anything up but the Apollo missions orbited the moon as well.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

They're going higher around the far side of the moon than previous missions, so further from earth

[–] mech@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Artemis II won't fully orbit it, it slingshots around it.
Which means it will fly higher over the lunar service, and while it's on the far side will be further away from earth than previous missions.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Cause when dad went to the store to get smokes......

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Because it sounds better, more historic, more impressive. I’ve seen several outlets say “travel further from earth than any other humans” and I think that’s the angle that should be taken here since we aren’t actually going to the moon, we are actually going around it, going as far away as we ever have which is incredible in and of itself then returning. Considering what country NASA is located in I doubt the symbolically inflated language is an accident

When you do a free return trajectory around the moon, you first "fly" towards the moon, and then you "fly" away from the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-return_trajectory

[–] el_twitto@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago
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