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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Time to put the American soldiers's sacrifices on israel's altar to their violent genocidal god. Sorry to the soldiers and their families.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Didn't he declare victory weeks ago? I'm confused.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The excursiom that was aleeady won that was actually a forever war? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

[–] mimavox@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And he absolutely doesn't need help, but it's a shame that the Europeans won't help. And he absolutely doesn't care about the Hormuz, but the Europeans should come in and open it up. Etc. etc.

[–] btsax@reddthat.com 3 points 6 days ago

No better way of getting Trump supporters out of the US. A silver lining for Americans at least

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago
[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So maybe a hundredth of what's needed to invade Iran?

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 30 points 1 week ago

More importantly, arriving 4 weeks into active conflict.

Instead of arriving before the bombs started dropping, when they could have been 100x more effective by their mere presence -- especially if combined with a full-spectrum diplomatic and economic push with the Democracies of the world as allies.

Jesus Christ, Trump and his cabinet are fucking hubristic-stupid

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

holy shit the casualties are going to be terrible

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] notsure@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...does anyone else hurt when these things happen?..

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The families of our troops.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I meant this unironically. I physically hurt.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The arrival of 2,500 Marines and another 2,500 sailors is keeping the number of American troops in the Mideast region at over 50,000 — roughly 10,000 more than usual

The U.S.-led coalition that invaded Iraq in 2003 was close to 250,000 at the beginning.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Worth noting: Iraq and Iran are very different societies & cultures.

Before colonialism, Iraq was decentralized/tribal for thousands of years before being arbitrarily collected into a single political unit.

Meanwhile Iran was its own empire, with a central head of power for those thousands of years.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

The history is one thing, even assuming the once golden boy of the West Saddam Hussein was anywhere nearly as politically competent as Khamenei and Iran's regime is such an unacceptable miscalculation.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

90% chance Trump thinks he's at war with Iraq. Most of those troops couldn't even find Iran on a map last month.

[–] TacoSocks@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago

Trump is just doing the Neocon wack-a-Muslim in the Middle East. Israel told him where to wack.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

...when a corporation is a government, people do not matter...

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The origin story in the modern era is the British East India company

35 million people genocided in 100 years.

Forced cash cropping so that farmers were growing opium, indigo and poppy rather than food.

Increased taxes during drought to pay out more to shareholders back in London.

Throughout thousands of years of Indian history the cultural norm was for taxes to be either reduced of waived during drought.

Extracting human suffering elsewhere into capital at home. That's what the East India company did. One of the world's first joint stock corporations.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...are you in a roundabout way saying that trying to extract maximum profit is a bad thing?

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Surely if that is one of the origins of corporations it will only get better from there right? Human suffering can't be foundational to the system, can it? ^^^^/s

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[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ. Can we just band together and do a coup to overthrow Trump and Vance at this point? This is going to be a needless bloodbath on both sides

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Yes, what's the goddamn holdup?

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

They've chosen to be complicit.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (9 children)

They are going to invade Iran, and play up every single death as a way to blame the Dems and every citizen for not supporting Trump. Now its a real war and "oopsie doopsie no can do elections"

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is an important insight. People who support war generally harden their stance once their soldiers begin to fall. It also becomes much easier to guilt and shame others for not supporting the war, framing it as having let those soldiers die in vain. It's an important instrument in the fascist/imperialist toolkit for stamping out dissent.

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[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I've been to concerts with well over twice that many people in the crowd

[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Americans fight for zionists. Zionist first!

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Just jumping in here before the bags start shipping back to say fuck every single one of these service people. All of them chose to go. All of them chose to serve this lying, fascist government and do the bidding of their corporate patrons. All of them signed up to bomb children. All of them deserve the consequences. Have fun shitting in a bag the arrest of your life assholes.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's the troops coming home from Vietnam being spit on and called baby killers again.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

And that was the high point for many, as they'd end up addicted and living on the streets shortly thereafter.

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most of them are probably 18 years old, poorly educated, and raised on Fox News. They're just pawns that have no idea what's going on.

Congress on the other hand, knows exactly what they're doing, and has no moral qualms.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

I hope the Europeans know how to cook. These boys are chubby. Or maybe that's the plan to make them a little slimmer?

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know how this ends well, we're staring at the Rubicon. Didn't end well for Caesar either.

[–] beansoup@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

I fear that it ends with nukes unless trump is stopped.

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