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It has to be pure ignorance.

I only have used my works stupid llm tool a few times (hey, I have to give it a chance and actually try it before I form opinions)

Holy shit it's bad. Every single time I use it I waste hours. Even simple tasks, it gets details wrong. I correct it constantly. Then I come back a couple months later, open the same module to do the same task, it gets it wrong again.

These aren't even tools. They're just shit. An idiot intern is better.

Its so angering people think this trash is good. Get ready for a lot of buildings and bridges to collapse because of young engineers trusting a slop machine to be accurate on details. We will look back on this as the worst era in computing.

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[–] TBi@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Generally I equate positivity about LLMs with people’s technical ability. I find the more they say AI is good the worse programmer they are.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 minutes ago

Technical literacy in general. My friend thinks it's the greatest thing ever, is an idiot with technology (and life in general).

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 2 points 31 minutes ago

My experience is that it can work reasonabky well, but you have to waste absurd amount of tokens and have the 1m token context window.

I only do gamedev, which means a little bit more simple scriots, but it could handle even more involved systems.

If i force it to first document and explain the wholw architecture and data flow.

Did it help? Yes, but it still did take only a slightly faster. I could do it in a day more, probably.

It also cost like 50$ in tokens, in today's prices - where every AI company is loosing trillions of money, so the costs will get a lot worse. And if I tried to conserve tokens, it's shit. You have to feed it 10$ of data to be useful.

Add to that the fact that it also causes skill attrition, so once the expensive-cost future arrives, you probsbly won't be able to afford it, and good luck getting your skills back after that.

Our company wants us to use it, and the average token consumption is like 100$ per day in consumer prices. How is that even considered for such a minor gain?

So, I'll pass.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 hour ago

you're obviously prompting it wrong, and/or not using the latest models ~/s~

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 hour ago

every time I use it, i waste hours

Yes, exactly this. It looks good, I ask for it to tweak something. It tweaks, but now something else needs adjustment. Then it comes back unusable.

It ends up taking the same time as doing it myself. There’s some value perhaps in either the novelty or engagement that keeps me focused but it’s not more efficient.

When it does work, I’m always worried it is an illusion I’ve missed something. Like how you send an email and immediately see the typo.

People who love it, love it because they don’t need to or care about having accuracy and precision in their work. Sales and marketing, management, etc. Business idiots.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 1 points 26 minutes ago

I recently used it to install Nvidia l40s drivers on redhat 9 and pass it through to my Frigate instance. Took me a few minutes. Would have been a lot of reading to find the exact answers manually.

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online -3 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

It really depends on the task and the tool. Current MOE models that have agentic hooks can actually be really useful for doing automated tasks. Generally, you don't want to be using AI to create things. What you want to do is hand it a very clear set of instructions along with source material. And then tell it to either iterate build on summarize or in some cases create from that.

I created a simple script with the help of AI to automate scanning files in from an automatic document reader. Convert them to OCRD PDFs. Scan through the document properly. Title the file based on the contents, then create a separate executive summary and then add an index to a master index file of a growing json.

Doing this allowed me to automate several steps that would have taken time and in the end I'm able to just search through my folders and my PDFs and very quickly find any information I need.

And this is only scratching the surface. I wouldn't have AI write me a resume or write me an email or a book. I might use it to generate an image that I then give to a real artist saying this is kind of what was in my head.

But boring stuff repetitive stuff. Things that really benefit from automation with a little bit of reasoning and thinking behind it. That's where we are right now with AI.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Pretty much every pro AI person I’ve ever spoken to IRL tells me this exact same story

I created a simple script with the help of AI

And this is only scratching the surface

Basically, “I used AI for a boilerplate task. It gives me the vibe of being capable of much more” but then nobody can ever really get it to do much more

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online -1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Yeah i used it for a boilerplate task, and then I did not have to do that task. I was able to scan in hundreds of documents, and at the end I had a fully indexed, properly file named, summarized, and searchable PDF library. Just doing one document at a time manually would have been a multi hour task for me, and in a few hours I was done, and it was good enough to good.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 5 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago) (1 children)

Sorry, to clarify, a boilerplate task is not the repetitive job that you are automating. It’s the code that’s doing it.

What I’m saying is that you (and many others) are incorrectly attributing (your paragraph about the benefits your finished program is conferring to you) to AI, because that happens to be the path you took to arrive there.

In reality, the reason it was able to produce functional code is because your problem was already solved and documented. A few years ago, instead of “asking AI”, you would have simply copied and pasted the boilerplate code from someone else’s project. In all likelihood it also would have been faster for you to have done so

Quick edit: Sorry again, just want to further clarify that when I say “boilerplate task” I’m referring to a type of programing problem that you solve with “boilerplate code”. Reading back the above I was kind of using them interchangeably which is not strictly accurate

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago) (1 children)

If I could have found the code, and copied it yes. Using AI means I did not have to search for it, did not need to learn Python, and then did not need to do the tasks.

Please understand I hate 90% of all the AI bullshit being forced on us, and employers requiring AI use is insane. I am just saying that blanked hate is short sighted because it is useful in some cases, and the number of cases keep going up as we improve things.

I could also use a dictionary to check my spelling, but having spell check enabled is just faster.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago (2 children)

Right, and what I’m saying is that the ‘usefulness’ that people claim to have discovered is totally nonsensical because these problems have been solved for decades

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 minutes ago

exactly. It's people realizing what coding is for the first time because it's being shoved in our faces. Before all this (bought and paid for propaganda) publicity, your average dummy had no idea what code was or did.

Basically, the non-tech people who know nothing about coding or how computers work are now amazed because they (think they) discovered what coding is because of the AI hype.

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 1 points 9 minutes ago

Yes but now they are accessible to anyone.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 minutes ago (1 children)

I understand that and good for you for finding a use case.

however a normal program could have done that exact same thing. It's just miniscule easier to do it how you did. Probably not repeatable though, or if your model you used gets the plug pulled, you're back to square 1.

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 1 points 5 minutes ago

Cant pull the plug, the model is local and running on my GPU. So I could break it if I wanted to but im not dependent on someone else.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

OK so that's what the boosters keep saying. However, every Task ive given it have very clear exact set of instructions, and when i comb through it, it still hallucinates. I can try talking to it like a 6 year old, and its going to forget what I told it the next day and hallucinate again.

Meanwhile I burned up a shit ton of power for 0 benefit and wasted my time. Worst case, someone else who is not detail oriented like myself is going to fuck up a lot of work.

However when i give it something I don't know how to do or dont know an answer to, it does a great job and is so smart! Amazing how that works.

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Your experience and feelings are totally valid, its still a shit show and in most cases a massive waste of power, water, brain power, and money. I am just saying that with the right training, and appropriate use, AI really can be effective NOW. One thing you can do is describe the task, and ask the AI to write a prompt to accomplish it. Then test that prompt in a new chat, and see if you get better results.

Most AIs will tell you how to improve your prompts.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

I can see where you're coming from and I get it.

I've done all that. I've followed it's little bs "hey, to improve, tell me this!!". Still gets it wrong.

It probably is fine for non-detail work and stuff no one really cares about (and if no one cares about it, maybe revisit what your job is). It's definitely not worth the cost. I myself don't enjoy telling a 5 year old the same thing 25 times (and then they forget because they saw a stick), which is exactly what using an LLM is akin to.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is a wildly niche task. You also can't trust the executive summaries or indexes will be accurate so you need to read both the scanned documents, the executive summaries and the indexs to review, markup and correct. Your response will be "but it's good enough" but is it? You wouldn't trust it to write a resume, but you would trust it to write an executive summary of a much longer text that you rely on to search for information?

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 0 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

Fair criticism, because it is "good enough" and it saved me so much time because I only needed detailed information on a few of the documents. But that is the point, it takes a repetitive bulk niche task and lets YOU quickly and simply create an automation that meets your needs.

Another example I have been using is having an AI read a resume, and do an ATS review based on a job posting. Then it generates a fit report, and makes suggestions on how the resume can be adjusted to better get past the ATS to an actual person. This is very useful in getting call backs for job applications. That has a real value.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 1 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

How do you know it hasnt missed or misinterpreted key information from some of the documents you might have needed? The AI won't complete the same task the same way on every iteration so the automation is only verifiable if you check every time.

Did you get any of the jobs?

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 2 points 45 minutes ago

Put in an application yesterday, got a call back today. Rest is up to me.

No i dont know if it missed something, but im not relying on the Exe summery for perfect detail, im using it to know which document is which and then using the index to go to points in the PDF.