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Source for this article is Israeli news. Sharing because this is the the complete opposite of what has been said to us by american media the last few hours while the markets get manipulated. We will find out in the coming hours/days but figured to share what this other side is reporting

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 37 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Iran has more credibility than the orange pedophile

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 hours ago (6 children)

I would not at all go that far. Iran's regime is horrendous and they were murdering and abducting civilians by the thousands for the past year or two. They are just as in need of a propaganda win as fuckface.

Remember everyone: Just because one side is an asshole doesn't mean the other isn't one too.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Credibility is not morality.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

precisely. a point often forgotten or overlooked.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I am aware of everything you said... yet Iran STILL has more credibility than the child rapist pressy

I am not, AT ALL, saying Iran is not an asshole, that's just your strawman

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There is no strawman. I was literally responding to

Iran has more credibility than the orange pedophile

In this specific situation? Iran's official line is more likely to be correct. If we were to look at things tomorrow, that very well might flip around. If you consider being correct in the moment to be "credibility" then... you probably should reassess your decision making skills.

Regardless: To quote the great one

issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the terror group ISIL. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

In this specific situation? Iran’s official line is more likely to be correct.

Then what the fuck are you arguing against? you literally said you would "not go as far" as to believe Iran when I claim I did just to backpedal here

If we were to look at things tomorrow, that very well might flip around

Did I say I will believe Iran forever? no, that was you making up a strawman.. you are creating stuff out of thin air to attack those instead of what people actually said... that is the definition of a strawman

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Every side in this conflict sucks, but I'd still believe the officials in Iran over the officials in the US. The American government is very obviously and methodically lying to our faces every single day and without shame. I don't see a reason to assume the same for Iran, even if they are terrible people.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Fascist dictators lie.

Just because you like the lie you are hearing doesn't mean it is more likely to be true than not.

I am inclined to agree with the official Iranian line on this specific topic. But that has less to do with what Iran is saying and more to do with what I have gleamed from the OSINT community and third party news orgs.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Fascist dictators lie.

Just because you like the lie you are hearing doesn’t mean it is more likely to be true than not.

Which side are you talking about? Honestly, it needs clarification

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 2 points 54 minutes ago

Of course dictators lie. But yeah, looking at the situation at hand, Iran does not have much to gain from lying in a public statement that is not directed towards their own population. The US definitely does though, they do it all the time.

[–] Akh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As someone else mentioned Iran is morally reprehensible but they haven’t been found lying so often like Israel and US.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

...

They are a regime that has imprisoned and murdered civilians by the thousands. They didn't like TO YOU because you weren't paying attention.

Look, I realize we all want clear good guys and bad guys. And your favorite influencers LOVE to play on that to get views for their twitch channels. But this isn't even a case where "Well, Hamas does a lot of evil things but they are morally justified in my opinion". This is two evil fucking regimes going to war for no apparent reason.

Trust third parties. Trust facts. Don't trust fascist fucking dictators.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

This is two evil fucking regimes going to war for no apparent reason.

So getting bombed by the USA equals "This is two evil fucking regimes going to war for no apparent reason"?? or you were referring to Israel and the USA?

You see, this is exactly why you are losing credibility. You are trying to seem neutral but the bias just oozes out.

We are all aware Iran sucks, but you seem to be clinging to the "the USA is fighting for democracy" BS that was stale a decade ago

[–] jaycifer@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago

So getting bombed by the USA equals “This is two evil fucking regimes going to war for no apparent reason”??

I don’t want to get dragged into the rest of this argument, but yes getting bombed and then retaliating with missiles does mean that Iran has gone to war. It doesn’t mean they started it, which is very worth noting, but it does mean they’ve gone to war.

Iran can be considered an evil regime, the USA can be considered an evil regime, therefore the two of them being at war does mean it can be said that two evil regimes are going to war.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

We are all aware Iran sucks, but you seem to be clinging to the “the USA is fighting for democracy” BS that was stale a decade ago

No. I am not. Again. It is incredibly obvious you view the world as good versus evil. You cannot look at an event without deciding who is the good guy and who is the bad guy and you ignore whatever facts get in the way of that. A LOT of people do that. It is a symptom of the infantilization of so much Western media. But that isn't real life and all you are doing by the constant "gotta hand it to them" nonsense is literally caping for murderous bastards.

Because, like I said,

This is two evil fucking regimes going to war for no apparent reason.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 7 points 2 hours ago

Doesn't change the fact that Irans fucking war propaganda is more credible than the tweets of the President of the United States of America.

[–] homes@piefed.world 26 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Trump really screwed any attempts to end this war when he started it by dropping bombs in the middle of peace negotiations. What a fucking idiot. not that he had any credibility to begin with, but now he has negative credibility.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Can’t taco out of a situation you weren’t really in in the first place. Remember, this guy had so little credibility to start with, Oman was negotiating for him, lol.

What a fucking loser and literally incredible idiot

[–] kabe@lemmy.world 2 points 41 minutes ago

Iran be like

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago

I’m just glad he didn’t end up bombing Iran again, thereby sending us back to the pre industrial era. I have little doubt that Iran would have fulfilled their threat against oil infrastructure.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The markets reacting as if Trump's words are based in reality at all is astonishing.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago

Vibes based economy

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe we could hand trump over to the IRGC for peace

[–] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Now there's a peace negotiation tactic everyone can get behind.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Let's see how exactly Trump intends to chicken out of this one.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Spoiler: All he does is say whatever he wants reality to be, denies ever having said anything different, and expects everyone to go along with it. It's his sole tactic.