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[–] kbal@fedia.io 17 points 6 hours ago

Just think of all the other things that could benefit from a "protective waiting period" to enhance your safety.

Turning off location tracking, using a web browser other than Chrome, using a mail server other than Gmail, visiting duckduckgo.com — if Google really cared about your privacy and security they'd add a 24-hour delay to all these dangerous activities.

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If this is really as straightforward as it sounds then I'd consider this the best case scenario. Google could have gone full Apple style lockdown or even just have implemented this flow on a per app basis, but needing to wait 24hr one time to enable unverified app installation isn't a bad idea from a security perspective. It prevents a bad actor with temporary access from being able to do much while not getting in the way of us power users after the initial 24hr period.

My bigger problem is how Google is leveraging their monopoly to implement this single-handedly and only for themselves. If they had instead gone through AOSP this perhaps could have been implemented in a better way to allow other parties than just Google to be the verifier, and that 24hr waiting period could be applied to any verifier that is not the phone's default. I'd argue this would be an equally reasonable security measure considering how many scams are out there preying on those who aren't technologically savvy, yet would maintain transparency.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I've heard of security by obscurity being accepted, but never heard of security by obtuseness being accepted as valid.

[–] MountainMan@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

They will just redefine what 24h means!

Don't think for a second that these companies are working in good faith, and would change their evil plans due to some pushback from the rabble. They will just find ways to circumvent things. They have everyone by the nads, there are no competitors.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

Why is it called developer mode if it's supposedly an advanced flow? That has a bad implication.

[–] smeg@infosec.pub 32 points 11 hours ago (6 children)
  • enable developer options
  • confirm that you are not tricked
  • restart phone and re-authenticate
  • wait one day
  • confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
  • decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
  • confirm that you accept the risks
  • enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Is this for all android systems because it is a huge rug pull if so

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago

Pretty sure it's a change to AOSP, the basis for every single Android ROM in existence.

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[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Can we prevent this on the EU level? It really is just killing independent competition.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

In addition to the advanced flow we’re building free, limited distribution accounts for students and hobbyists. This allows you to share apps with a small group (up to 20 devices) without needing to provide a government-issued ID or pay a registration fee.

Fuck you sideways, Google.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

This would not have affected me since I use Lineage OS without Google Play Services, but I am now more seriously than ever looking into using a Linux phone like Postmarket OS.

[–] fluxx@mander.xyz 4 points 8 hours ago

It would affect a lot of users, then it will indirectly affect you too, as a lot of devs won't be as interested in maintaining their apps for so few users. But I hope it will at least give a bit of a push to developing postmarket os. I personally am sure going to get a second hand phone to install postmarketos too and hope I can contribute at least a little bit. I am prepared to suffer, at least a little bit for the right cause.

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[–] achille225@jlai.lu 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

How will this be accepted by the EU?  Will it comply to the regulations? 

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Because they technically still allow sideloading after 24 hours so I don't think it would violate EU laws

[–] shrek_is_love@lemmy.ml 19 points 16 hours ago

They think this will take some of the heat off of them. Hopefully no one actually thinks this is a reasonable compromise. If I want to help an elderly family member install something on their phone during Thanksgiving dinner or a family reunion, I'm not gonna want to wait a day. Uncle Paul's flying back to Florida tomorrow morning!

[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 59 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Okay but, installing an apk is not the kind of thing a scammer does. They'll just install some standard off the shelf remote access software from the play store

This very much feels like they just needed to come up with a new justification for this process and opted for scammers for some reason. Even though they're completely disconnected

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 25 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This very much feels like they just needed to come up with a new justification for this process

It feels that way because that's exactly what happened.

[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

I was hoping for at least something slightly believable, someone let Gemini write the justification I guess

[–] low@lemmy.today -2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I don't care, this is a massive win

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Found the Google employee.

[–] low@lemmy.today 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Bro did you want them to ban it? A one-time 24 hour wait is literally nothing compared to having 0 viable phones on the market where you can sideload.

Am I tripping? How is this not good news?

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 minutes ago

You purchased something. Then the company you purchased from announces they're taking away features from you after the fact. Then they announce that they'll give it back partially if you waste your time and do all sorts of steps.

You see this as a win? With attitudes like this, no wonder companies feel they can get away with anything.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

What specifically is a massive win?

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 40 points 20 hours ago (34 children)

And again, confirming that my current phone will be the last android device I own.

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago
[–] gary_d@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine that the demand for linux phones will only grow.

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