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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the Japanese told the rest of the Axis Powers of their plans

[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

AND they technically tried to warn the US about it, but the diplomat responsible for delivering the notice was late because of bureaucracy among other things! It was literally not even supposed to be a surprise attack!

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The 14-part ultimatum message was encrypted from Japan, the embassy had to decrypt then translate into English. To preserve secrecy the embassy didn’t employ locals, and few of the embassy staff knew English so progress was slow. The instruction to deliver the message at 1pm also didn’t mention this was absolutely critical. The Ambassador arrived at the State Department over an hour late.

Meanwhile army intelligence had decrypted and translated the message much faster, but a litany of failures meant the warning of attack had to be sent by telegram - not even paying for priority service - and arrived at the base after the attack.

However, it was intended to be a surprise attack, and the declaration of war was only delivered ten hours later.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it was still going to be a surprise, just not zero warning. Iirc their goal was delivering the declaration minutes before the first planes arrived.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It was never a surprise.
The US, that never tolerates economic competition froze Japanese assets and subsequently imposed a total oil embargo in response to Japan's occupation of French Indochina, cutting off roughly 88–94% of Japan’s oil supply.
That was almost a declaration of war.
They wanted war with Japan.
Moving the fleet to a remote place in the middle of the ocean was seen as insanity since it was a sitting duck.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Literally every class I've ever taken, and every documentary I've ever seen has said it was a surprise attack.

Some documentaries suggest that the allies suspected an attack may be coming at some point, but they didn't "know".

So, no. Not literally every history book shows this as a pre-agreed upon attack.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe not in American history books but any other history books, yes.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I don't even believe the 'late' part

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

pile it on the list of embarrassments for America

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This sounds like a Boondocks bit.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These last years after the pandemic feel like we're stuck in a late-night Adult Swim reality.

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Word! Sometimes, there's just too many cooks.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

Well, It takes a lot to make a stew.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They're saying he's joking but it's possible he legit had never heard about Pearl Harbor until that day.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's legitimately the funniest thing he's ever said.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funny is great, but not... In every situation. I don't want a funny president for the same reason I don't want a funny oncologist.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 2 days ago

Oh, no doubt. It was super inappropriate for sure.

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

What a babbling idiot. Does he think that she was one of the Kamikaze pilots?

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The answer doesn't even makes sense since japan was the usa enemy and now it is the usa allies. He was asked why he didn't tell the allies and not Iran

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Also it wasn't exactly a surprise that the us started a war with Iran.
That fat orange barrel of scabies has been yapping on about it for over a decade on xhitter and CuntSocial. It was in the Epstein files that it would happen if backed into a corner.

Then there were posts on here, and other sites, around 5 or 6 days before it happened about troops eating better and being mobilised etc.
Hell, we aren't american yet even my wife knew about it a few days before when I suggested it would happen within a week.
Ok, yes, I didn't know the exact date but we knew it was going to happen very soon.

The truly shocking thing is what happened to little girls school.
And I don't mean it was shocking that they did it, no I expect this regime of ShitGoblins to do terrible things like targeting schools. I mean the devastation and deaths of innocent school kids is shocking.