Slop.

Some Ukrainians thought the nazis were saviours.

Yes, that would be the fascists.

Hitler was a monster, but we really don’t talk enough about how bad Stalin was.

Lol these people make these slander posts of Stalin more often than they think of Hitler.

Lemmyworld continuing on 1930 nazi propaganda work, making the bots at proud.

he seized all Ukraine's food production [with his giant spoon] including all the bread, the wheat, the cows, the chicken. In the next months

just like me at the buffet fr, fr.

I thought it was a modified title in the Hexbear to kick the original post but no it unironically claims USSR killed people randomly, how do people actually live like this? Ah, well, they do, if their beliefs about USSR are already bent so to the right to begin with

Similar with how Moscow shut the internet off except some government apps, there is really no material case for this to occur outside of their claims of preventing drone attacks; there had been attacks conducted far far away into Siberia by Ukraine too, so this stands ground as a defence for internet blackouts, yet the videos I saw mock the concept, and tout it simply as government censorship because they hate citizens or something, despite Russia losing millions a day by doing this, they don't want to do it either FFS, use materialism for once holy shit I'm gonna go crazy

Over 1 million people were deported to Gulags, secret prisons in Siberia, where they worked 12 hours a day.

This one is very funny, because most of the work prisoners in gulags did was to farm and build housing for themselves, to literally make their prison experience more tolerable. It's not like modern US prisons where they are used as slave labour. Also, 12 hours a day would've seemed like an amazing improvement for factory workers in the west at the time.

I love how every time they get close to an actual "fact" about how bad the Soviet Union was, it often wasn't that bad, or was bad, but nowhere near as bad as literally any capitalist country on earth at the time. Probably why they just lie nonstop most of the time, because any actual factoid they remove from context, once put into the context of what was going on at the time, makes both the USSR and Stalin seem actually pretty reasonable or at least understandable.

I think the most hilarious thing about all of this is trying to blame Trotsky for creating Stalin, like that is a double whammy of pissing off both MLs and Trots, at once, that is hard to do, well done.

Wow thanks, I've never heard any of this before except from the entire mainstream media all my life

Hitler was a monster, but we really don't talk enough about how bad Stalin was.

where they worked 12 hours a day.

oh hey I nearly missed that.

quoting Сталинские стройки ГУЛАГа, 1930-1953, eds Кокурин А.И. & Ю.Н. Моруков, page 61

Приказом начальника Дмитлага № 10 от 9 октября 1932 г. были объявлены сле­ дующие правила внутреннего распорядка жизни лагеря:

подъем в 5 часов 30 минут;

завтрак с 5 часов 45 минут до 6 часов 30 минут;

развод на работу с 6 часов 30 минут до 7 часов;

рабочий день с 7 до 17 часов;

обед с 17 до 19 часов;

с 19 до 22 часов — время, предоставленное для работы КВЧ;

с 22 часов 5 минут — отбой и сон.

So in this camp, in 1932, the labour day was 10 hours.

(КВЧ is "культурно-воспитательная часть")

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There's so much to pick apart here, but the last line really gets me:

Hitler was a monster, but we really don't talk enough about how bad Stalin was

This is soft Holocaust denial, and also completely fucking stupid. Stalin gets talked about so much, by dipshits like you. Were you born yesterday??

Stalin was inspired by Leon Kennedy who genocided an entire spanish village to steal their gold and gems

Randomly

why would anyone do it randomly you're making him sound like a fucking batman villain lmao

When the Nazis invaded Ukraine, some Ukrainians thought they were saviors

Glad to see the CIA is embracing open source software now instead of Reddit, good for them

Over 1 million people were deported to Gulags, secret prisons in Siberia

There were certainly people who were imprisoned secretly (usually high-profile figures, including Yezhov himself before his execution I think), but the gulags were by no means generally secret nor were most of the prisoners there, because it was literally just what ~~equivalent of the federal prison system was~~ penal labor camps with a sentence of 3 - 10 years were called for a period. (my bad, see Edie below)

Also, it's kind of weird to call sending someone to prison "deportation," since it's not like they were just dumped in the wild when their sentence was up, and if you want to accuse the Soviets of internal deportation, especially to Siberia, they did a ton of that shit and it was usually awful, but it's weird to use gulags as your example of it.

When the Nazis invaded Ukraine, some Ukrainians thought they were saviors

I once knew a self-described anarchist who said this. It is nothing short of Nazi apologia, because overwhelmingly the only Ukrainians who thought this were fascists and a huge proportion of the remaining population was immediately put on the chopping block. Did the Jews, Poles, and Russians and so on in Ukraine who were slaughtered by Nazis and Ukrainian fascists for being the Wrong Ethnicity feel liberated? Fucking freak shit.

I idly wonder where this specific talking point comes from, but also I feel like it'll just be useless psychic damage to find out, so I'm not really in a hurry for someone to tell me.

Edit 2: This person might just be a literal teenager, with this breathless Very Important news about the Great Terror like every single person in the US learns in school and/or from conservative think tanks or whatever.

stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin

inspired by Leon Trotsky

This has the same vocabulary as a children's book

I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy.

Rest in power, Comrade Stalin. 🫡

I can't fucking handle this much slop condensed into one post, i'm sorry