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Electron apps are ruining the Windows 11 experience, and even the JavaScript creator has warned against ‘rushed web UX over native,’ but it doesn’t look like that will change Microsoft’s plans. In a post on X and other places, Microsoft reaffirmed its commitment to AI in Windows 11 and encouraged Electron developers to consider using AI in their apps.

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[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Today it took almost 30 seconds for the context menu to appear when I right clicked on a file in windows explorer. I mean ffs, if I wanted everything to be a browser, I'd use a chromebook.

(Inb4 "install linux", it's a work computer and I don't get a say in OS)

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 minutes ago

Even in the browser Outlook (a Microslop web app running on a Microslop browser) sometimes takes up to a minute to load on refresh. HOW!? God I hate that company.

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Dude. Same. Windows 11 at work is fucking awful.

My laptop idles at 12 out of 16 gigs of RAM free.

Right clicking takes dozens of seconds, especially on a network share.

Did IT remove a letter mapped network drive? Haha! Fuck you! Windows hangs indefinitely if you open Windows explorer. You gotta fuck around in the registry to remove that shit.

The only good thing about windows 11 is tabs in Windows explorer. Which MacOS and Linux have had for a gazillion years.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

If you don't want to write native code, then make a PWA. At least those don't run a separate copy of chrome for each program.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

PWAs do have severe limitations though… i wish it wasn’t; i love PWAs but they’ve been massively hamstrung by the big players. sadly, they’re not really comparable other than for basic apps IMO

[–] aeharding@vger.social 1 points 1 hour ago

And or tauri

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 5 points 1 hour ago

I'm pretty anti webtech but even I've written GUIs in wails. I hate electron so much, but what makes it worse is that there are so many better options. The people that keep pushing it are stupid*

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago
[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 hours ago

Of course MS would want people to develop Electron apps given they're trying to move Windows to the cloud anyways.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Spontaneously I had the idea of entering this forbidden word into a browser, just to see what would happen:

microslop.com

The result was truth, and nothing but the truth, I can assure you :-)

[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh yeah, it’s good. The link to microslop: https://microslop.com/

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Lack of constraints has killed everything. I hope all the RAM and storage becomes unusable people are forced to work with 3mb again.

[–] MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social 1 points 17 minutes ago

Nah, they'll just push for streaming compute power and charge you once more!

[–] mrnobody@reddthat.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You mean when care was taken while coding and an OS could "run on 1GB but suffice with 2GB? I know everyone hated Win 8 but it was a welcomed change plus no bullshit on it at the time.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Real men remember when windows vista launched like shit because it assumed there were way more brand new high memory machines out there than there actually was

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 2 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

Vista is the reason I started using Linux.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 minutes ago

Unix was the resson I started using Linux.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 33 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Microslop Winslop 11 with Electroslop

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

The one thing Apple has done an amazing job of over the years is providing a solid, clean, common application framework for all of their systems.

They've fucked it up recently, but basically, 90% of the time you'd get the same consistent interface design across all apps, with common design language and iconography and accessibility features. They aggressively deprecate so you have to keep that $100 dev fee rolling, but the experience has been good for the the better part of 20 years (post carbon & X11, pre-liquid ass, the cocoa years).

If everything on Windows is a vibe-coded web app then everything is going to look like different, feel like shit to use, and perform like shit.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 3 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

If everything on Windows is a vibe-coded web app then everything is going to look like different, feel like shit to use, and perform like shit.

I am happy to report: Windows apps that look different, feel shit to use and perform like shit are already available!

E.g. Teams, the CPU warmer from hell, was rolled out to Windows long ago. It was coded for Electron and couldn't even integrate with Microsoft Windows' taskbar popups. They had to fake one by creating a window that moved itself up from below the screen. Did this break when you changed resolution? Yes it did. Did it break when you moved the taskbar? Yes it did. Did it break when- YES IT DID

[–] batshit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The one thing Apple has done an amazing job of over the years is providing a solid, clean, common application framework for all of their systems.

iOS doesn't even have a universal back button, every app has their own way of implementing it.

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 1 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

It has swipe to the right from the side of the screen. That works in very application I’ve tried.

[–] batshit@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

It's not universal. It has become more common, but there is no OS-level enforcement

[–] org@lemmy.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How has Apple fucked up recently?

[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

As an avid Apple user the most recent ui changes are unfathomably bad. The os has become notably less useful to me in som frustrating ways. I can solve some but not all of it through settings.

[–] org@lemmy.org 1 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

You mean since 26? I agree. I dunno who they have at the wheel, but they need to step down lol.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

IIRC the person most responsible for Liquid Glass now works at Meta.

[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] org@lemmy.org 1 points 3 hours ago

That’s the AI, which is only a small fraction of the problem with 26.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

So no more UWP apps? Ok, I thought those were supposed to be the future but whatever...

[–] lung@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Windows now Chromebooks?