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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago) (2 children)

China IS authoritarian.

I'm not a liberal, I'm a libertarian socialist/communist.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

libertarian socialist/communist

When your socialist / communist group arms and starts defending themselves and their class interests, what prevents someone labeling them as authoritarian for doing so?

Socialist countries like the PRC lived through a hundred years of imperial exploitation by foreign powers (Britain, the US, and Japan), and fought a decades-long civil war against feudal reactionaries to finally liberate themselves from these oppressions. Do you know something they don't, about how to establish socialism, "non-authoritarianly"?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

It's a good thing for the working classes to wield state authority against capitalists. Not sure what you mean by "libertarian socialist/communist."

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 minute ago
[–] mosspiglet@discuss.online 0 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

False dichotomy. Both of these things suck.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 hours ago

China's social credit score system exists because after their rapid urbanization the business community started complaining that they needed a way to know who can be trusted to pay back loans. At the same time the cities were full of people who were used to knowing all their neighbors and were now surrounded by strangers that they didn't trust. The Chinese government framed both of these problems as the same thing - a crisis of trust - and presented the social credit score as the solution. It was just a copy of the United States' credit score system but dressed up in socialist buzzwords to make it more palatable to the people, so it was really just meant to solve the first problem while pretending to solve the latter. The "social" aspects of the social credit score (subtracting points when someone commits a crime, public disturbance, etc.) are inconsistently applied across various localities and practically vestigial, most Chinese are not even aware that they exist. It's ironic that this socialist coat of paint on one of the most capitalistic elements in the Chinese economy makes Americans think it's dystopian, while in reality the most dystopian parts of it are the ways that it's identical to our credit system.

[–] Ron@zegheteens.nl 2 points 2 hours ago

The Chinese credit system is western propaganda there is nothing like it as described in western media.

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 16 points 7 hours ago (12 children)

I donno anything about China, but whoever made this meme certainly doesn't know anything about the USA. The idea that "liberals" or anyone else (??) are high-fiving themselves over a credit score. lol

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 1 points 31 minutes ago

The only ones celebrating credit scores as a concept are lenders, the true capitalists

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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (8 children)

Americans:

"praise the supreme leader!" - wow, brainwashing much?

"I pledge allegiance to the flag..." - Yup, this is fine.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 48 minutes ago

nowadays it's more accurately the same statement for both

people are praising the supreme leader in america

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