I'm just sick of being unmedicated because there's always a shortage of medicine or my insurance wants to be a fuck nugget. I can't even function properly without mine and have severe anxiety over losing my job because of this shit. Fuck American healthcare, fuck insurance companies.
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I have ADHD along with many other learning disorders and trust me, ADHD is really being over diagnosed. Children nowadays spend 12 to 15 hours a day nonstop doomscrolling short form content on TikTok and of course that is gonna impact their ability to concentrate and focus.
Many doctors who diagnose those things are old (in my country, for example, it takes DECADES to be allowed to work in the field) and are so old they're just not prepared for ts so they just flag everyone as ADHD
I think that it is a combination of better diagnostic practices, diagnostic ambiguities, and ever popular exploitation. I know individuals with ADHD who fit the bill to me, and I know individuals who acknowledge they don’t have it and yet have a prescription. So, there is some unfortunate noise in the statistics, because of abusers.
The experts whose jobs are dependent on over-diagnosis.
the first author on the paper is Samuele Cortese, he's a tenured full professor who studies sleep disorders, ADHD, and neurodevelopmental disorders - literally nothing about his job is contingent on over-diagnosis of ADHD ...
The loudmouth who doesn't really know anything
This thread somehow brought out some of the most misinformed, boomer-brain takes imaginable and comes dangerously close to anti-intellectualism. We can all agree that labels can be reductive and unhelpful, but as someone with a neurological disability, seeing people debate whether a disorder that makes it incredibly hard to enjoy my life is even real or not is fucking horrible.
Why is there never any nuance in these discussions? We can both believe that under-diagnosis occurs, and that over-diagnosis occurs. 20% of all pupils in the UK are now classified as so disabled that they require specialised assistance. "SEND" assistance for this can range from free taxi services to and from school (which recently reached £1.2 billion), to support payments, to special assistants in school. The number of ECHP students (those with the highest needs) increasing by 71%, from 253,679 in 2018 to 434,354 in 2024. SEND spending is out of control.
So what happened, exactly? The average child disability rate in Europe is 4.6%. How did the UK end up with 20%? Did the UK suffer a catastrophic nuclear event? A war? Famine? None of the above. It is clear that categorisation has become EXTREMELY loose over time on average. This does not mean that there are not children who are struggling to get diagnosed with ADHD. However ADHD and autism are a spectrum disorder. It is not binary. The UK has drawn the line far closer to the normal side of the spectrum than any other nation on Earth. If costs continue to rise at this rate, it risks destabilising the entire health system. Public sentiment will shift, and we risk undermining children getting any diagnosis at all.
IMHO, this requires at least two tactics at the same time. 1) Invest sufficiently into diagnosis resources. Stringing parents and children along for years while they wait in the system can make the issue much worse than it needs to be. 2) Draw the diagnostic line closer to where the rest of Europe does it. This will mean far fewer children are diagnosed with disabilities, but those who genuinely have a disability are treated much faster and actually receive the resources they need.
This will mean far fewer children are diagnosed with disabilities, but those who genuinely have a disability
You're going to have to elaborate on what a genuine disability is there chief. Let me help you out:
- lead poisoning.
- microplastics
- plastics in general
- glyphosate (round up)
- air pollution
- mosquito spraying
- etc.
All of those things are at lower levels than the 1970s.
There's less microplastics now than in the 70s?
Yes.
The moral panic of overdiagnosis comes from conservatism's obsession with hypernormalcy. Basically unless your really-really failed to be normal, you're not allowed to stray from it, and even then, it would be good if you were normal, because they like the virtue of normalcy, and also thinking is hard, and also also change is bad.
Yes this explains modern transphobia a lot. Some admitted, that it has to be "all undone", because people stopped trying to be normal first and foremost. This also partly explains gatekeeping in fandoms.
Any diagnosis means someone might demand something of them. It might be consideration, tax money, or some other inconvenience like actually having to apply thought and accommodation to anyone not fitting their idea of conformity. I agree with where you’re pointed, but it isn’t a “moral panic”, it’s their unwillingness to expend anything of themselves for others.
If ADHD is common enough to be prelevant in 5% of population... Then to me it seems like its not something we should be drugging people for, but instead adjust the lives to it? I mean we don't give "righ-handeness" drugs to left-handed people.
“ 12.0% Estimated percentage of the U.S. population with diabetes”
So, should diabetes not be treated?
Hang on guys, medical intervention is out if an ailment is common enough. Let's un-laser those eye surgeries and smash those glasses! Time to adjust!
10% of women have endometriosis. Would you take away their pain meds? You can make their work life easier (more sick leave) but then it still affects their personal life.
ADHD is so much more than "can't pay attention in class". It affects your personal life too. Usually that's a deciding factor for getting meds.
Well, the real problem is living in a capitalist society that expects everyone to be a good little capitalist and work a 9-5.
The problem isn't having adhd, its that society expects me to function in a certain way, and the fact that I don't makes them want to change how I act.
There are other traits I have from trauma that are considered positive by society, so they don't give a shit, and in fact encourage those behaviors.
My problem isn't my job, I am completely fine with that, it's the way I barely function in my personal life, and a lot of that isn't related to the structure of our society at all. There could be less friction in a few places yes but that wouldn't completely fix my issues either.
Sorry but no. 9-5 is hell, but even without that life isn't pretty. A huge one is rejection sensitivity, that pretty much only affects personal life. Can't really ask people to accommodate for that.
No thanks, I'd like to be able to think with a clear head, and do something with my life, not be stuck in one of like 6 suitable work places.