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I think if any other (smaller) site were continually posting CSAM without moderation, it would be banned. What's different about X? The fact that Elon Musk runs it and he's in with a powerful dictator?
At some point you have to admit the CSAM is not the problem, it's the person running it, whether they have the power to stop you/fight back or not.
What's different about X?
Well, you kind of said it yourself: The fact that, since it's sadly still one of the largest social outlets, there's a whole economy around it. If Europe banned X tomorrow, a lot of people and companies would take a non-negligible hit to their revenue. We can argue that probably these people are not a majority of the other half of people in Europe that don't want X gone, but in the end, politicians and lawmakers care about money and (in a very distant second place) what the majority of their constituents say.
I wonder how feasible it would be if they'd announce a deadline whereby it would be blocked and recommend people and business to move onto a federated alternative.
If Europe banned X tomorrow, a lot of people and companies would take a non-negligible hit to their revenue.
Care to back up that claim? What exactly is Twitter's contribution to their bottom line that they cannot live without?
not just banned, but there would be criminal charges brought on the owners.
Musk should be prosecuted for distribution of CSAM.
Absolutely. And soliciting Epstein for sex with minors. Let's not forget about that. He was begging to get on the island and get some underage tail. It was pretty pathetic.
He should be held liable, but he won't be. Not by people who do the same thing.
Yes, it is unfortunately becoming increasingly clear that even in the EU, billionaires and their companies are above the law. The legal situation should be clear here and there should be consequences - but there apparently aren't any.
Unfortunately, this applies not only to Twitter, but to most US tech giants in particular, to meta, for example. I have already stopped counting the massive violations of the GDPR that meta and others are constantly committing, because nothing happens anyway. If anything, the fines are so low that violating the law brings these companies far more revenue than it costs them.
So unfortunately, the same major issue that brought the US to the brink of a straight up dictatorship also applies in Europe: even the most blatant violations of the law have no serious consequences for the richest of the rich – and that is why billionaires are becoming more and more powerful.
The situation may be better in the EU for now than in the US, whose legal system obviously no longer even maintains the appearance of fairness, but even in the EU, the enforcement of the law is miles away from anything that could even remotely be called justice.
The reason seems to me to be the same as in the US: concentration of power in a tiny billionaire class that asserts its influence through corruption.
I think that if things continue like this, and I see no indicators that they will not, it will not be long before even the appearance of justice is abandoned in the EU as well.
Edit: Here is an example of how this is possible - it's just plain old corruption, but in the highest ranks of our institutions: From Meta to the EU Parliament: Former chief lobbyist negotiates data protection (German article)
Aura Salla was Meta's chief lobbyist in Brussels for many years. Her task: to convince politicians to weaken EU digital rules such as data protection in order to generate even higher profits with Facebook, WhatsApp, and other platforms.
How about we just fine them to oblivion and make the people responsible answer for their crimes?
How about we start throwing executives into jail starting with the top and working the way down?
Shouldn't they want it banned because it already broke the law? How many lines have to be crossed before anyone does anything?
Anarchism for the rich(law does not affect them), rugged police state for the poor,
I'd rather not see a great firewall of Europe.
I'd be happy to see them banned from doing business here though. Hit them where it hurts, their money.
Yes, I wish they would ban Tesla cars in Europe. That would be amazing.
I want it banned regardless :D
Weird to be that low for "continues to break the law."
They'll immediately ban "from the river to the sea" and prosecute everyone who says/displays it. but a multinational corporation is just allowed to break the law and maybe the politicians will at some point allowed them to face the law.
I say that, in order to save the species, ban all social media, everywhere.
but lemmy :(
You might not realize it, but the Fediverse is social media so a ban would be rather detrimental to this place.
Damn near the entire internet is "social media" but people usually mean "social networking sites".
i want it banned even if it doesnt
More than half are ok with any company breaking the law?
According to a new YouGov survey, a vast majority of respondents in Germany, France, Spain, Italy and Poland (60-78%) think that the EU should take further action against X if it does not address breaches to European law brought forward by the Commission last year [1]. The majority of those (62%-73%) who wanted further action – and 47% of total participants – want X to be banned from the EU if it refuses to address these breaches [2]
I don't like the idea of "banning" users from accessing a website. But I am certainly in favor of banning sovereign companies from doing business with the company that owns a website, and seizing any physical assets that the website company owns within the laws reach.
I would like to know the percentage between if they break the law and regardless if they break the law
Ditch it.It will have 0 to none effect of EU. And Mr.NaciSalute won't get broke.Mastodon is the way.
I think you are mistaken. It will have a huge positive impact on the EU.
I want it banned here too.
Nearly half? Sheesh.
Maybe it's because most Europeans don't have a strong opinion about X. I really don't think it's quite as popular here as in the USA. Which is also the reason many don't know how unhinged the current admin is.
A lot of politicians and governments still use it as an official platform. I wish they would stop doing that and giving it any sort of legitimacy.
People know you can just not use it, right?
This is exactly why I'm against any regulation of any kind. Its up to the consumer to make those choices. Say if a baby food company put deadly amounts of arsenic in their food. That's those dead babies fault for not exercising their power as consumers. A bank steals all the money the customers put in? Shouldn't have picked that bank, tough luck. Buy life saving medicine from a pharmaceutical company and they send you sugar pills? Your fault.
Companies don't commit crimes and are never liable for them. Its on the people who choose to use them. Couldn't agree with you more. Well said.
It's not just about not using it, it's about punishing a company breaking the law, profiting from it, and feeding an authoritarian regime.
I mean, I'm aware I can simply not murder people, but I still want murdering people to be banned. (Admittedly this is a false equivalence but the point stands)
Sure, but I don't really want to share a reality with people who do.
It's making them not right.
It should’ve been banned long ago. It’s insanity that, it is not banned yet. There’s so much illegal content through Grok and so many hatred on X.
If X fails to respond to the Commission’s fine, 70% of respondents were supportive of repercussions [3]. Among those, between 17-28% think that further fines should be given to X, between 23-29% believe X should be banned, and the largest segment - between 40-52% of those in favour of repercussions - believe that the Commission should fine and ban the social media service entirely from the EU [4].
Those are rookie numbers.
How about just banning it for the good of humanity?
