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Secretary of State Marco Rubio admitted that the U.S. was forced into the war with Iran by Israel while speaking with reporters on Monday. He explained that the government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had effectively boxed in the Trump administration, taking the decision out of American hands.

“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action,” Rubio explained. “We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t pre-emptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties.”

Rubio’s disclosure highlights the Trump administration’s unwillingness to rein in the actions of Israel, even when that country’s policies resulted in U.S. attacks that only a tiny minority of the American public supports.

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[–] IronpigsWizard@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Ah, 2026.

I do not really want to pay attention to the news, given there is little i can do to change things, but everything keeps getting more expensive (Ex: gas, food).

So, you look up why, go down a rabbit hole of news and feel somewhere between exhausted and helpless.

One of my closest friends died during the Iraq War, I was much younger then, 17+ years ago now. It hurts though, an it hurts knowing other people are going to have to carry that weight as well, for those needlessly slaughtered, sacrificed, globally.

There are no survivor benefits and free counseling for friends.

[–] matti@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action,” Rubio explained. “We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces,... "

Why would that cause an attack against the US. Am I being daft or is that a huge reach?

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I assume he means US forces in the region.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 31 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Fighting Israel's war

But they (USA) can't help Ukraine, a democracy that has been absolutely non hostile, gave up their nukes on a promise of help if invaded, and was attacked by Russia that is clearly an enemy to USA, the west and democracy. And now USA won't help Ukraine anyway?!

But they can help Israel against a country that was willing to negotiate?!

USA is a despicable country, that has abandoned all values and their peaceful allies. To support a regime that has been extremely hostile towards their neighbors for more than half a century, and is committing genocide in Gaza. That's the one USA chooses to help!

I wonder how many times Israel has said thank you?

[–] voidsignal@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Ukraine does not have pictures of US government fucking children

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yes that is the problem, Trump is 100% transactional, he stands for nothing but what benefits him. He has absolutely zero morals.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago

Epstein said that trump is the worst person he has ever known. Let that sink in.

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world -4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The war in Ukraine was happening while Biden was in office too.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Yes, it was. What is your point?

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And the US was supporting Ukraine at that time. That support got cut off as soon as trump entered office. What's your point?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 4 hours ago

There's definitely a different in quantity, but you're exaggerating. Biden was famously slow-walking aid and sanctions and Trump didn't completely (or even mostly) cut off aid.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

He explained that the government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had effectively boxed in the Trump administration, taking the decision out of American hands.

I imagine that conversation went something like this:

"Do it or we release the tapes."

pretty much exactly this.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (8 children)

I just don't understand what Israel has on the US et al. Like how is this tiny dependent state "forcing" the United States into anything?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 22 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

You know who Epstein was working for, right?

Hint: Look up who Ghislaine Maxwell's dad was.

They literally have photos and evidence against a significant portion of western leaders and lobbyists. That combines with the influence purchased through one of the largest PACs in the America and it really shouldn't be that hard to imagine.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

On top of the threat of Epstein, Trump has spent a lot of time talking about whether he will get into heaven lately. Coupled with the news that military leaders are saying that the strikes are to help Trump usher in the Christin Armageddon end times, it's also reasonable to think that Netanyahu coaxed Trump into thinking if he "helped God" he might actually get into heaven despite the child rape and murder.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

That is just stupid enough to be something he would think.

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Israel owns almost all US politicians through AIPAC. Plus they have komporomat of Trump and others in the US government.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Aipac is funded by american christian zionists who pay politicians to support Israel so at the end it is americans who control israel. The usa would have already claimed officially that the west bank belong to Israel otherwise

They don't have anything on the U.S. Netenyahu and Trump both know that without an extreme intervention, both of their futures are headed towards either a military tribunal or cyanide in a bunker.

It's narcissistic authoritarian elitists with more loyalty and faith to each other than any country or religion they pretend to give a shit about. They're desperate to avoid accountability at all costs and figure they might as well go out with a bang.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Location, location, location

The US needs Israel as a proxy to keep the oil and intelligence flowing.

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

Well, there are some pdfs here and there

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Christians need Isreal to exist. It is a requirement for their beloved rapture to occur, which they want so that they can spend eternity with their God. The US is overwhelmingly Christian.

[–] atropa@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago

Epstein files

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 6 hours ago

They're hiding behind the shield of antisemitism.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Netenyahu and Trump are legitimately going scorched earth here.

And don't forget America's bff (as long as you ignore 9/11), but that's water under the bridge right

Push from Saudis, Israel helped move Trump to attack Iran