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Since when is Graphene's logo a football and Motorola's the Super Mario M?
It's AI slop.
There wasn't exactly anyone else it could be except Motorola Mobility. It's not much of a leak since we all already knew.
This genuinely so fucking smart from Motorola. Whomever is greenlighting this needs major kudos. We're in a world where everyone wants to move away from US technology now and Google/Apple have monopolized the market. Motorola is making this move RIGHT when everywhere else is going "Is there literally nothing else we can use???" Good play esp as they need to up the specs on a new device to handle Graphene. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.
Isn't Motorola still a US company though? How is this a move away from US tech?
Nope, moto mobility is owned by lenovo. So chinese.
Looking at Wikipedia now, Motorola Mobility is owned by Lenovo but still a US based company, so kinda the worst of both, no?
This is how a functioning capitalist system should work. Companies competing against each other for the benefit of the consumer.
The purpose of a system is what it does. Capitalism is functioning, it's just that we're not the beneficiaries.
why in the thumbnail is it neither org's logos?
Interesting catch, weird AI image maybe?
If Motorola is willing to have a non-shitty operating system, why can't they just put a non-shitty operating system on at the factory? All the stock Android OS I've seen lately, including Motorola's, are crappy, have privacy settings disabled, and in many cases are full of unremovable malware.
Well, Google wants to continue their trend of spyware and people don't give enough shits for anything to change. Same as with smartphone manufacturers removing features (SD cards, removable battery) and car manufacturers adding spyware and unnecessarily complexifying cars to make them less sustainable.
Presumably they could start shipping graphene stock
Because that was not their goal before, they were OK with the level of freedom their users had with stock Android. With the future restrictions Google will apply to Android they are probably looking to ship their new devices with Graphene to prevent that.
I used Motorola's products with Android for years and they one of the few in the market to still deliver something close to stock Android with only a couple of apps added for specific features (gestures to turn off flash lantern, etc) so I don't where you got this malware thing going on with them. Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes.
Now I got a Samsung and it's one of my worst experiences ever using their "One UI" and it is really riddled with crap because Samsung for some reason thinks they need to add their own versions of every app included in stock Android.
Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes
Yes, but more urgently, Facebook.
It's great to see a mainstream OEM work with GOS. I really hope Motorola will make phones with an actual headphone jack. That's my no. 1 complaint about modern Pixel hardware.
they still do have jacks in some of their low and mid devices
Sounds like a good choice. Motorola has some very good budget phones and also good high-end phones. All running pretty clean versions of Android. I hope GrapheneOS will support both a flagship (or midrange) and a budget phone.
This is hilarious to me because other than a Samsung once (which made me go back) I had only moto... Until when I finally upgraded I wanted grapheneOS so pixel it was. Very happy about this.
While I'm happy that it's Motorola, i just wish someone like Fairphone also bites the bullet of investing in a proper encryption chip that's acceptable to Grapheneos. I'd like to see more or a trifecta (duofecta?) of trustworthy OS and sustainable/committed manufacturer.
motorolas are available worldwide, i'd ratherit be them over some no name manufacturer
Fairphone has a slightly different focus, mainly sustainability and ethics (labour rights, production). Graphene's more on the privacy side.
Would be dope though, to have it on there as well.
GrapheneOS requires I think a few other things, like the possibility to completely disable the data lines in the USB port, and a bunch of others.
The problem with Fairphone is that they have rather high demands (e.g. long term support for hardware, better production practices) but they are a rather small outfit, so the default answer from parts manufacturers is "talk to the hand".
As they grow they'll become more interesting
I would argue that Fairphone with /e/OS is a combination of a committed/sustainable manufacturer with a trustworthy OS. It does not actively spy or screw with you, and it tries to prevent snooping in many places.
Of course it's not nearly as security hardened as GrapheneOS, so that may be an unacceptable compromise to come.
Motorola had made several classic phones.I hope this will be their true comeback.
I would like it even more to see that working on a Xiaomi or Samsung
i would liked xiomi more but more Hardware is better than only google
I Fucking love Motorola, I'm cumming as I'm reading this. Thank you Motorola.
Same. I don't think I could use a phone without the chop to turn on flashlight thing.
Unfortunately I was an idiot and uninstalled it when I was debloating my phone. I reinstalled moto actions, but the chop for flashlight doesn't work unless it's recently after a reboot (the turn for camera does though). Legitimately temped to make a backup then factory reset my phone to get it back.
The new phone is going to be called the Motorola Jizzr
Man I can't WAIT. Next up: Fairphone
lineage already works on those
That'd be a dream!
Haven't had a Motorola in many years. Hopefully this works out well and we get a really nice piece of hardware that isn't subject to the whims of Google.
The best thing about Motorola is that they ship with a very stock android ROM. It's also the worst bit, because there's nobody maintaining any software. Handballing software maintenance to GrapheneOS would be sweet.