People be like "Oh, I'm against war" then immediately call you [insert enemy] shill if you speak up against the current one.
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I don't buy for one second that bombing the school was a mistake. I expect it was part of the plan to stir up protests in the U.S. to further justify taking over the mid-term elections under some "emergency order".
Clearly I don't mean the entire war, they just took advantage of the opportunity to further other ends.
Now we have to look out for false flag attacks around the country. That will be an excuse to put elections on hold
I don’t think they put that much thought into it, IMO. It was the Israelis that actually dropped the bombs, wasn’t it? They do that shit just because they hate Arabs, I don’t think they care so much about the midterms. They still believe there’s no way they’ll lose the support of Congress, no matter what public opinion in the states is. They’ve got a free pass to murder whoever they want, and they’ve had that pass ever since they attacked and jammed the communications of a US warship that was looking a little too closely at what they were doing.
even better- be against “regime change” bombing and “defensive preemptive strike” lies too. even with no civilian deaths it’s still dumb as shit.
Even if there’s a change in regime, the likelihood that it will be for the better is slim. The crazy dictator will just be replaced with some other crazy dictator.
Its almost like bombs dont make a region more stable and capable of long lasting meaningful reform
*shocked pikachu face*
Iirc, the crazy dictator they've got is already a result of foreign interference in the first place. I might be thinking of Pakistan, or maybe it's both.
Maybe you're thinking of Libia, or was it Iraq? Wow this happens so often it's hard to keep track of it all.
It’s also Iran. The CIA and MI6 instigated the 1953 coup that overthrew the prime minister after he moved to nationalize the oil industry, which hurt British oil profits.
They don't have a plan. This cut the head of the snake strategy never works. It hasn't worked on stopping organised crime or terrorist groups. When you murder someone they are rarely replaced by someone more moderate.
That is the plan. You keep the region in chaos, and it “justifies” you being forever involved. The dictatorship in Iran is there because of a US/UK instigated coup. And a few decades from now, they’ll still be using whatever comes out of this was as justification for the next. And then, like now, they’ll blame it on anything but themselves.
A country's sociopolitical problems are theirs to solve, not a foreign actor. This should be one of the tenets of self-determination.
It is not always possible to do. Italy and Germany were under a brutal dictatorship. The allied intervention was needed to help moderate democratic parties, oppressed by the regime, get the necessary strength to promote positive change. There are lot of nuances to take into consideration for each country.
This is a stupid take.
The Allies didn't go to war with Italy and Germany because of their internal sociopolitical problems, to instill democracy to dictatorships. They did it because The Axis were invading other countries.
If those dictatorships had kept to themselves they may have survived much longer than they did.
Now I'm not saying this applies to the current circumstance, but just talking WWII.
If they stuck to their own countries, you are probably right that no one would have done anything. But would it have been so great that there was peace as Jewish people in Germany were so brutally killed?
Intervention should not be taken lightly or unilaterally by one or two nations, but it is sonething that should be an option to save a people from "their" government.
Surely there's a middle ground between letting a murderous regime stay in power and bombing their civilians?
Well, yes, that's why I explicitly said I wasn't saying this would apply to current scenario.
Are we stopping at territorial invasion (which Iran committed against UAE)? Iran is providing weapons to Russia, hezbollah, hamas, houtis and Iraqi militias. Iran is attaching ships on international waters. Iran is also active in hybrid cybernetic warfare against western countries. Where is the line you need to cross to make it justifiable to intervene?
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True, we should bring international army to Minnesota, that's what the people in Minnesota wants: freedom from oppression.
Don't get me wrong, Hitler and the nazis and especially all the bystanders who ignored were all awful, but literally nothing good comes from some foreign countries meddling in other countries politics.
Imagine France decided trump was evil and they would get rid of him and suddenly Macron becomes the leader of the US. Yeah people will be happy that trump is gone, but imagine what happens next: people are mad because they are essentially controlled by a foreign power, their political system just gave weight to some other guy and now the nazis will rise up again because they feel like they need to "liberate" their nation from "the chains of foreign forces" and "make the country strong again". And this is only national reactions. No one knows what France constitutes as "a dictator". Maybe Canada is next? Now they have to build defenses against hostile actions like this one. And because France did it, maybe Spain will copycat, and maybe they might pick Portugal just because they would love to indirectly control it. And now you have to justify why that's different than Russia trying to "purge a country of Nazis", you know, stuff they are literally using right now to justify their war of aggression.
What I'm trying to say is any countries business is their own. Otherwise every foreign invasion is suddenly up to interpretation and that's just a bad ground rule for geopolitics.
You are dismissing an example that defeats your first point: indeed something good can come from foreign country meddling. Your “France” example is a case of bad that can also come from meddling. The outcome is what differentiate between good and bad meddling. Was UN and NATO meddling in Kosovo good or bad?
Some on here told me recently that that's a perfectly good reason to go bomb another country and kill its leader.
True, but also I've had people telling me I have to 'critically support' the government of Iran, or else I'm just as guilty as if I dropped the bombs myself.
Nah, fam. I can be against two things.
In real life?
online trolls have influence on real life flesh and blood people. that's the point of the online trolls
It's true. Not arguing that. For some reason it felt like they were discussing real-life encounters. Yes, the trolls have weight, but human interaction is much stronger.
The "Palestine is homophobic" one is especially hypocrite: unless Israel has special missiles, bombs and bullets which stop whenever they encounter a gay person, bombing Gaza kills far more gay people than homophobia in Palestine purelly because homosexuals are naturally a fraction of the civilian population being indiscriminatelly killed.
That kind of shit is "we'll kill you to protect you" hypocrisy from a murderous aggressor and only morons and murder-loving sociopaths parrot that crap.
You don’t even need to get bombs involved with it. Being gay might be legal in Israel, but that doesn’t mean the people there are fond of LGBTQ+ people. It wasn’t that long ago a teen was stoned by a mob for being lesbian.
It’s not a nation where gay people are treated equally.
Israel itself is VERY homopohobic and virtue signals allyship with the queer community. so that justification outright doesn't hold up
Probably 40% of the countries in the world are effectively authoritarian or dictatorships.
We’re not bombing all of them to “free” the people.
So the math is way off. It’s not about Epstein…this seems like people are inventing yet another conspiracy about this. Nobody is prosecuting trump, nobody is trying to. He’s surrounded by toadies and spineless democrats, he has the SCOTUS captured. All he has anymore is power. So therefore the likely reason for him doing what he’s doing is to keep himself in office by finding a way to stay a third term by force or by canceling midterms.
surrounded by toadies
What's a toady?
-Bari Weiss
He was a character on Neighbours.
Or oil and China...
Countries going against each other is part of this world (sadly). I don't care that much if they play a dumber version of chess with their military assets.
But fucking KEEP THE CIVILANS AND THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE OUT OF THIS. There is NO reason at all to bomb a school or hospital.
Countries going against each other is part of this world (sadly)
It's literally not, though. Who have Vietnam, China or Mexico invaded in the past decades?
Yeah I don't support bombing civilians. I will however celebrate the death of IRGC members and leaders :)
You explained it, and I think most people, including most Americans, agree.
I do not want to see people being killed, especially children, by war. Hell is hell and war is war, war is worse.
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