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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Kennedy Jr’s statement probably referred to the Harvard psychiatrist Dr Christopher Palmer, who said he has “never once used the word ‘cure’ in my work. I have never claimed to have cured any mental illness, including schizophrenia,” but added: “I have talked about ketogenic diet being a very powerful treatment, even to the point of inducing remission of symptoms of schizophrenia.”

RFK is a crackpot moving way too fast. At the same time, The Guardian is equally misleading in its headline here.

There IS evidence that Schizophrenia, like a lot of other disorders (epilepsy, Alzheimer's, Bipolar, etc) have links to the microbiome. Here is a paper analyzing various studies into keto as an effective treatment for schizophrenia. It's not perfect, it's not for everyone, and more research is needed.

Technically the Guardian is correct when they say there is no evidence that keto can "cure", but I find it very misleading when there is a decent bit of evidence that it is an effective treatment.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

He so close - it's not the Keto Diet, it's brain-worms from eating the roadkill.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

There's a day coming when most Americans will have very limited access to real medicine. A plurality will have to depend on quackery and home remedies.

[–] BiglyFlyBye@piefed.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I have no expertise but found Dr Christopher Palmer's book interesting: https://brainenergy.com/

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Why would literally anyone listen to this coke-fried man whose had actual fucking worms crawling around in his actual fucking brain?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

But he's snorted cocaine off a toilet seat, he's just like me or you! So relatable.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 10 hours ago

also HEROIN damaged brain, who drove his family member to OD on it, plus cocaine, and decades of parasite exposure. and he resulted in 80+ somoan Dead children by advising them to not take the MEASLES VACCINE.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 10 hours ago

someone has been brain damaged by cocaine and heroin should not be giving medical advice, and likely a parasirtic infection in his youth(before his divorce)

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 27 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

The evidence that ketogenic diet might help with schizophrenia symptom remission comes from two case reports that Palmer published in Schizophrenia Research in 2019. When discussing them, Palmer was quick to emphasise that “yes, it’s only two”, and that “case reports don’t prove anything. They’re not controlled. They come with tremendous amounts of bias.” But, Palmer noted, that can be important for generating hypotheses about what treatments might work. Palmer thought it was valuable to publish these case reports because remission of schizophrenia symptoms is incredibly rare.

Two case studies! The scientist quoted knows that it means nothing! Don't read one article that might show something that confirms your bias and go "this is real."

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

"But even the doctor who wrote about it says it isn't a cure."

"What the fuck does he know?"

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

wasnt there a recent post, rebuking ketogenic diet is not much of difference.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

Nothing this snake oil salesman says is ever backed by any evidence.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

No evidence behind most of what this walking crime against humanity says

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 6 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Even beyond like actual facts and evidence proving this wrong, I have one fundamental question for all these nutcases making wild claims about diet: why the fuck would X diet do Y thing?

Like what about eating more meat and fat & being in ketosis could possibly have any effect on schizophrenia, of all things.

It doesn't even make sense on any basic level. Could there theoretically be some counterintuitive thing that would cause an effect? Maybe, sure. But come on - these wacky claims don't even pass the sniff test.

[–] SculptusPoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

This is why politics is a disease. Because the guy is an idiot and makes claims bring the bound of the science he is talking about, people on the "other side" of politics will dismiss the real science altogether.

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I do think it'd be interesting to do a real study on it. Keto can reduce seizures, and after study it might turn out the same mechanism of action that helps there helps with schizophrenia symptoms. I hope there's a more extensive study being planned out there.

[–] xep@discuss.online 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

There is a lot of co-morbidity between Schizophrenia, Bipolar disorder, depression, and Schizoaffective disorder. Epilepsy might've been in this list as well. The research in this WRT to nutrition is known as Metabolic Psychiatry and the book that Dr Palmer has written is Brain Energy. It is a fascinating read. Other notable resources include Dr Georgia Ede, Dr. Bret Scher, and Dr. Iain Campbell.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why would anyone take anything seriously from a man who had actual brain worms.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

Maybe going keto would grow them some extra brain cells so they could realize it's a bad idea

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 7 points 19 hours ago

Has anyone found evidence behind the claim that RJK Jr can integrate novel information?

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Who would have guessed you could cure mental illness back thousands of years by eating exclusively chicken.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

That's a carnivore diet. A ketogenic diet can be vegan.

Not that I'm recommending a vegan keto diet, I'm just saying you got your diets mixed up.

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

When has RFK ever suggested a vegan diet? The article referenced a "red meat, whole milk and animal fats" diet. So my mistake I should have said steak not chicken.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

that is where you get all your essential parasites.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Whole milk has more sugar than it has fat.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

That's true, sorry. Raw milk has more sugar than it has fat. (it's basically the same as whole milk)

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

After some health issues I did a whole food plant based, SOS, Keto diet. My cholesterol ratio went to 1.08 without meds, I lost a ton of weight, was full of energy and got fit as fuck, and apparently I was "full of color" because I was now eating a ton of vitamins and nutrients. Great diet but viciously difficult to keep up with unless you have a peraonal chef.

Needless to say, I am no longer that strict.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I've also done several stints of mostly veg with some fish keto, and every time it's like magic. Feel great, clear head, drop 5kg over a couple weeks. It's always back-to-back social things or travel that break it. If I lived in a bubble or some keto-only hippie commune, I'd be shredded like a block of cheddar.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

But a block of cheddar isn’t shredded. It’s a block. Shredded cheddar is shredded.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

The cheddar GETS shredded through work.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago

It was the COVID lockdown that killed it for me. I haven't been terrible since, but I also have not found the motivation to go hard core again.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Look at the last year.

Now imagine permanently living in a conservative America.

That's a reality we're actually facing because Americans can't get their shit together.

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

i was raised evangelical fundie and have had multiple breakdowns in the last year from feeling like i am being forced back into a life i clawed my way out of. it is hopelessly depressing

[–] Chaotic_Altruist@lemmy.zip 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Unless I'm mistaken he doesn't even make money off the keto diet, this is just stupidity for stupidity's sake

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

He makes money off of stupidity, though; his and others.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It’s more insidious than that. In general, meat forward diet influencers are entry points into the conservative pipeline. You start out seeking to improve your health and very quickly end up exposed to jordan peterson types who will ominously warn you of the “normalization of inadequacy” among the general public and suggest progressively more conservative content as a pathway to achieving your full potential.

So in essence, though he may not seem to directly benefit, by highlighting these types of diets he knows plenty of people will hop on youtube or whatever and get algorithm’d right back into the broader MAHA/MAGA sphere

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 10 hours ago

the gym bros, culture is also pretty conservatives, they follow UFC, and by extension roegan, and other pseudointellectual. J peterson is a fully paid shill for Putin, ever since he went to russia to GET a coma from them.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

I really want to shove Peterson down a flight of stairs right into one of those industrial grinders they use to mulch engine blocks.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t those who experience seizures eat a keto diet?

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's a treatment for people who don't respond to medicine.

https://www.epilepsy.com/treatment/dietary-therapies/ketogenic-diet

It's pretty interesting! I listened to a medical history podcast about keto years ago.

https://maximumfun.org/transcripts/sawbones/transcript-sawbones-ketogenic-diet Apparently the diet started as a treatment for epilepsy. Way back in history people noticed that if you were inclined to have seizures and were starving, you had fewer seizures. In the early 1900s there were experiments to figure out how to reduce seizures without, you know, starving them to death. keto!

I wouldn't be shocked if keto had some kind of effect on the brain that helps with schizophrenia, but there's no real info yet.

[–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

There are an increasing number of case studies for Bipolar Disorder, as well as pilot trials. If you're interested, there is a YouTube channel called Keto Bipolar with interviews that you could take a look at.

[–] paperdoll@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As a bipolar person I tried the keto diet. It made me super manic and I ended up in the hospital so ymmv

[–] xep@discuss.online 1 points 7 hours ago

I'm sorry to hear that. It makes sense that everything I've read on the topic says it's best done with the help of a psychiatrist as it is a medical intervention.

[–] michaelalf@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Interesting. Just to correct you though, BPD is Borderline Personality Disorder not Bipolar.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 19 hours ago

Isn't a keto diet dangerous without a prior check-up?