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[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 78 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Do we really need to bomb Iran again?

Can’t we just… not?

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

trump can’t reply as he’s deep throating netanyahu

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

while getting banged from behind by putin.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Nah Putin is watching from the cuck chair

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Surely Netanyahu has kompromat on him too right?

[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Epstein was working for Israel. They've got it all.

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[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

If we want to see this stop, we need a revolution. We need to build a worker-led anti-imperialist movement.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hey, what you don't trust me?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Israel is a settler colonialist state using pseudoscience and “Zionism” which is just the same repackaged ideology that justified the extermination of the indigenous population in the United States. Israel is a settler colonialist project that’s main objective is the systematic extermination and land absorption of the Middle East. It’s Manifest Destiny all over again

[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah Huckabee just said the Bible states they will rule the land so they should just take Jordan, Syria, Lebanon. He's probably testing the waters for pushing greater Israel

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He also said "they" is an ethnic group who descended from Abraham, but also literally anybody who says they're a Jew because it's religious, but you don't have to be religious because it's ethnic but Palestinians shouldn't be DNA tested to prove they're Jews who converted and are closer genetically than the Jews of Europe, all in the same sitting.

The mental gymnastics he went through to justify without outright saying it that Israel is for primarily white Europeans...

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you have a better way for Israel to forestall elections and reckoning for their failure to keep their ghetto under control we would love to hear it. Because using the epstein blackmail to force the US into starting our new forever war, Persian Gulf War III, is what we are working with here.

And there will be no shortage of pretexts to reopen hostilities no matter of peace agreements afterwards, hence the forever part. We had to cross over to hit a militant group, terror group, whatever. Every time Israel's leaders' approval ratings are down or they are facing a vote they can pretext up another round of Iran war.

The beauty of it, for them, is that Iran is nearly powerless to respond. They've a non existant airforce, rudimentary missiles and air defense, and are fundamentally compromised in their communications on a base level allowing near total visibility in what they are doing. Satelites, drones, the air forces, it's fun killing people that can't fight back! /s

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[–] Pirat@lemmy.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There used to be a satirical musical group called the Capitol Steps that sang a song called "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran" sung to the tune of the Beach Boys Barbara Ann. This was at 20 years ago. Unfortunately, Covid killed the group (as in made it no longer viable because people quit coming to see them, not actually killing them).

I wish they'd try to make a comeback.

[–] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 3 weeks ago

yeah US Senator John McCain of Arizona himself loved to sing that little ditty

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We're still looking for the WMDs.

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[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Are there a lot of fishermen out there for Hegseth to soften his murder boner on?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Get ready for an Israeli false flag operation

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Israel doesn't need one. The Iranian regime has already turned the world against them by slaughtering their own people last month, and their people already hate them, and so if they just attacked outright, most people and countries aren't going to care. They'll just say something like "Oh no, anyways we urge all sides to show restraint".

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

We have already travelled so far past the Nyquist Limit on that, the official signal is almost all Israeli-US Non-Harmonic Distortion. Barrages of aliasing travel up and down the frequencies of communication with no apparent harmonic relationships being expressed.

The meaning of "false flag" loses relevance when the true flags are just as false.

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Kind of off topic, but I've seen the the Ford carrier in Virginia before and it is HUGE. It's crazy how big this ship is. It's like the Empire State Building tilted sideways. When you see it irl, it really puts in perspective just how powerful one ship can get.

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[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago (35 children)

Theoretically... what would happen if Iran or someone else happens to magically sink this thing, fighter jets and all?

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Without reading an article, but I will assume you mean a magical macguffin weapon just.....sinks it and no one knows what happened. The response depends on a few things.

Without its strike groupThreat assessment will show its defenses were overwelmed by the macguffin weapon. Maybe even conventional missiles - these things aren't invincible.

With Strike GroupThe normal Carrier travels with 12-15 destroyers and other auxiliary vessels to provide screening and defense overlapping. If the carrier is struck and damaged/sunk in the center or back of this strike group, without loss of other vessels, an immediate retreat and Threat assessment will be done to see how the macguffin weapon got past everything else. This would be the concern - again Carriers aren't invincible, but how your macguffin got past so much radar would be important and the MAIN focus, if the macguffin did not do it in an immediately obvious way.

Strike Group disabled/sunkIf the entire strike group is damaged/sunk, the entire fleet will pull back to begin assessing risk of the macguffin. Damaging a fair number of ships run by the United States in a short order should be beyond poor nations capabilities, so the macguffiin weapon would necessitate reevaluation. Delay of at least a week to assess where/what the macguffin weapon is, (Assuming its a singular object) and then if the target, say Iran, is able to be struck within a specific loss ratio of troops.

A macguffin weapon like a Deathstar type where it can fire at single target position would give most Threat analysis away and the immediate questions to answer would be 1. How much energy/fuel/ammunition does it cost to fire. (If a broke country can afford a mega laser - how don't I have one?) 2. How does it target (radar can be blocked, is it manually aimed as direct fire/ parabolic like artillery) 3. How can it be avoided (like blocking radar to aim, or like can a physical obstruction block the firing angle. 4. Can it be destroyed (is it susceptible to a strike team on land to sabotage?) 5 Is there more than one.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

My brother/sister/sibling in the 'tism came out strong, with several scenarios even.

Here, have some stimuli.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 weeks ago

More pollution in the Mediterranean :(

[–] rimu@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

If it looks like something that could happen again, rather than a one-off fluke, USA would have to change their whole naval doctrine. The strategic arms balance of all countries would need to be reassessed.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Magically? Hypersonic missiles kind of feel like magic, but thet are very real.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The US would freak out and escalate the war. But they are going to do that anyway sooner or later, this is a forever war, Israel needs it for their domestic agenda, and the US party, the one fixing elections to stay in power, is all in.

But regardless if they did sink it the administration would try and treat it like Pearl Harbor and use it to escalate tensions more than they have support to do already.

Public opinion is the only thing holding them back now, and they aren't entirely certain how much they need public opinion still given the elections aren't reliably fixed yet, at least not back to back fixed. We can still stop them here, but the window to do so is closing.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's borderline impossible to sink it. Nothing can even get close to it, let alone sink it. If, as you say, magic was involved and it was sank, then the US would glass whichever country did it. This ship represents the peak of American naval power, which is the basis of America's hard power. A country that sinks the ship is getting an official declaration of war from congress, and the US will unleash its entire arsenal to make an example out of them.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Israel is going to attack it and say it was Iran and then they will have an excuse to attack Iran for the interest of Israel

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

"We have now started carpet bombing all our neighbors in solidarity with the Americans."

No lie, the Trump administration would probably silence the CIA to prevent it from coming out and applaud Netenyahu for committing even more genocide.

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah well peace doesn't make itself you know.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Peace can't exist without war, don't you know? ... wait a second ...

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They want to fly over Syria and Iraq?

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

I would assume their legal theory is "Just fucking try to stop us"

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

No, that's stupid. Aircraft carriers are built to be portable military airports. They're made for blue water warfare against coastal countries with no US military bases nearby. It's useful against countries like China or India or Brazil where there are no US basis around, but that's not the case for Iran. The US already has military bases in Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, Bahrain, Oman, Syria, and Iraq. The Ford carrier is just there as a symbolic show of force.

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