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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm a currently childless man who may continue to be childless. Sometimes I think about teaching as a means to contribute to the betterment of society.

[–] JuliaSuraez@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s a funny way to frame it 😄 At the end of the day, everyone’s just choosing the life that fits them best—and there’s room for all kinds of happiness.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

everyone’s just choosing the life that fits them best

pressing X so hard rn

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Thank you for your service. Please continue engage in weird, wonderful, time-absorbing hobbies in my honour.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if my hobby is breeding?

Go breed! Quickly. And furiously.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (11 children)

It's always a bit surreal to see people insist "As a childless adult, I get to have hobbies while you don't" when - as a childed adult - I find myself picking up hobbies I'd never even considered before kids.

My little guy stumbles on things and gets into them, needs some help, and suddenly we're both neck-deep in a jigsaw puzzle or a TV series or a train kit or a pile of half-painted miniatures.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think its more that those hobbies are thrust upon you by the child. Your willingness to engage with them smooths it all out. Not everyone has patience for kid friendly activities and some find them incredibly boring.

For instance.... I work in childcare. Almost all of my personal favorite activities are very non-child friendly... (then again I also engaged with many of my favorite non-child-friendly pass times way younger than most people would be comfortable with...) I find most sanitized "kid friendly" activities pretty unbearably boring.

The kids themselves are fine though. And if anything I think they'd agree with me. If I busted out a super violent video game or something they'd probably cool with it. It'd be my fellow counselors and parents who'd take issue.

If anything my experience with kids almost softened my desire to get sterilized and cement my child free life. Kids seem fine to me. Its just all the social restrictions and expectations around them and obviously the energy, money, and time commitment. (Also I'm a soft-anti-natalist.)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Not everyone has patience for kid friendly activities and some find them incredibly boring.

In my experience, kids love to imitate whatever their parents are doing. But they struggle to operate at an adult level. So you provide them with kid-friendly activities to bridge that gap with an eye towards full participation as they get older.

When my son was 1-year-old, I couldn't put a baseball glove on him and toss a baseball around. But I could kick a rubber ball back and forth. I could get him to throw his ball into his toy box. I could roll a ball to him and have him pick it up, then two-hand throw it back. I'd do this with an eye to the future. And then he got older and stronger and more dexterous, and we could elevate what he tried to do.

I get that this isn't the most stimulating for the adult. But, at some level, you need to enjoy being around your kids generally speaking. Otherwise, I'll spot you that having kids is going to be miserable. At another level, learning how to teach is its own hobby and challenge. Experimenting with what your child can do is interesting. Reading about the next milestones and testing whether your kid can do them is exciting. Watching your kid improve over time is fascinating.

If that's not for you... okay, fine. Maybe you take your kid to daycare and let them figure it out. And you just treat your kid like an appliance - fed, rested, healthy, etc. I'll spot you that this isn't very fun (on its face, anyway).

If I busted out a super violent video game or something they’d probably cool with it. It’d be my fellow counselors and parents who’d take issue.

I mean, I don't see an enormous difference between Splatoon and Team Fortress. I got Sonic: The Hedgehog collection for my son, and we can play it without any serious fear of trauma (although he has thrown the controller a few times). You can curb the degree of gore and still keep all the elements that make an activity fun.

If anything my experience with kids almost softened my desire to get sterilized and cement my child free life.

More power to you. Just crazy to see people blot their own childhoods from their heads and insist you simply can't have fun under the age of 20.

I don't think they are saying you gave up your life because of your children but that you shift your time towards other things. Rightfully so because having a child is a huge responsibility and people better live up to that.

But I don't think you would have gotten into jigsaw puzzles and probably did something more alike the things You did before you had children.

Or maybe you are the exception to the (from what I can observe) the norm and haven't given up any or most of your adult hobbies when having a child. If so, good on you!

In closing I would like to say that I respect people that want children, I understand some people want children and can't have them (fertility, no partner, discrimination against non hetero) and I understand the anger they might feel when seeing this meme. I also understand those who don't have children and are fine with it or even happy about it because they actively pursued this life concept. So to me that meme is funny without making fun of the other groups but (as ever joke needs) using them as a reference to make it funny in the first place.

Live long and prosper 🖖

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Adults Im talking to are like "I have no spare time or do anything interesting, my children consumes me completely". I say fuck no to that. I have personal growth to pursue.

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[–] C1pher@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

A lot of people don't understand what it takes to raise children, completely overlooking what you just listed. You seem to be a good parent, which is rare.

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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 102 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This is important and highlights some problems with trends in the modern world. At one point, we had an agreement that the average family would sacrifice 40 labor hours to the economy in return for enough resources to sustain a family. Now it's 80.

Parents should have plenty of time to engage in childish pursuits alongside their kids. It's natural, traditional, healthy and constructive to multi-generational, extended family households. I know that's not what everyone wants, but I feel like it should at least be an option.

It should be okay for a person to work 20 hours per week. We have the technology to make that sustainable. If someone wants to work 80 to accumulate luxuries for themselves, I think that's fine, too. What I hate is observing people being forced to live in poverty while working 40+ hours. I am aware that almost no one working full time is below the federal poverty limit, but that's because it's a nonsense metric. It's unconscionable that anyone should have to live in poverty in the modern world, but it's insane that full-time wages don't necessarily cover the cost of living.

I believe this creates a situation which raises children without a sense of community outside of work, and now we're watching them burn down the village as 70-year-olds. There's a saying about how bad times create strong people, strong people create good times, good times create weak people, and weak people create bad times. I don't believe it for a second. Strong people and peoples are those with strong social bonds. They needn't be biological. Screwed up families exist and it's okay to get away and find a real family elsewhere.These communities create good times, which create even stronger people.

So therefore, go and do silly things with kids. Play Minecraft or Fortnite or kick-the-can or hide-and-seek, sing baby shark, or watch Bluey. Not just because our future depends on it, but because it's fun. We are supposed to be happy as a minimum standard. Not all the time, but at least as an average. It's not even the goal of life; it's the method. We're supposed to enjoy doing constructive things. That's how positive reinforcement works, and the current system is not only failing to acknowledge that, but it's diverging from it.

Go and be childish.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

We also used to get to retire and do the childish hobbies for 15-20 years after our careers ended.

Our grandparents had dolls, model trains, antiques and organs to play.

You can’t give most of the shit away now, not just because tastes have changed, but I think because housing, employment and free time are all a fraction of what they were 40 years ago.

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[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You ever see the futurama episode what that slug was forced to party all the time.

It’s like that

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Damn lol... kids or no kids, if you're doing it right, you're exhausted

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Having to maintain a population is a kinda bizarr (hopefully not racist) concept. Humanities problem is not that we're dying out because there aren't enough humans ...

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[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

As a childless adult, it's my duty to be part of other people's lives and support families by being a trusted adult (trusted by parents and kids) and be a good role model for others' kids.

Why? Because we live in a society. Today's kids are tomorrow's adults. There are, unfortunately, a lot of terrible social influences out there, and parents can't battle society alone. Young boys and girls need to learn and develop healthy relationships with men and women alike, beyond just their parents, in order to have something to model themselves after and to learn how to treat others with love and respect.

And this is especially so for singletons. A lot of the bad and warped ideas about "relationships" and even self-esteem comes from unhealthy views of romantic relationships. Ideas like if you're not good enough if you don't have a boyfriend/girlfriend. Or ideas that men and women cannot "only" be friends (objectification of other sex). Ideas that men are owed relationships and sex by women (incels). Ideas that it's better to be with a bad partner than to be single (abuse).

Parents can't fight all of that on their own.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

While I naturally want to contribute to society, I do not have a duty to it. I did not choose to be here. Much like the kids in question.

I don't give a shit about what the parents think or want as parents. Having a kid doesn't make your desires elevated over child-free people. In fact tbh you are under a minor moral debt in my eyes.

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[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 27 points 2 days ago (33 children)

Ah yes, the modern version of the "I hate my wife"-joke.

As a childless person myself, I can tell you that I rarely have the energy to "go have fun" after a long day of work. In fact, I prefer to just be at home and be a boring, basic bitch.

I can also tell you that almost every parent I know, and I know many because almost everyone my age have kids, are super active and do all kinds of fun things with their kids all the time. Especially those whose kids have gotten older and less dependent. It is a big, big, big misconception that parents never have fun. They do. A lot. They travel, go to parks and museums, theaters, circuses and talks with child entertainers. They take part in local community activities like sports and arts and whatever else is out there and they bond with the other parents who also wish to build a good community for the kids.

I have also seen how efficient parents are with time management. Not because they were born with that skill, but because they HAD to get good at it, so they pretty much never have a boring day ever. Are they tired and exhausted? Yes. Do they sometimes wish for a break from the kids? Also yes. But I would wager a guess that they all have lives that are tenthousand times more exciting than or many other childless people do. Not that it is a competition. Personally, I like the boring life where I get to do whatever I want without interruptions. I like that I get a break from other people because it overwhelms me to be around more than three people for long stretches of time. That just how I am and that is why I'm childless.

But I in no way feel superior to parents pr have this childish preconception that parents' lives suck. You can only have that opinion if you're never around people who have kids.

Sorry for being a party pooper, but I really, really hate this stupid joke and I hope it soon goes out of style and becomes something we look back at and cringe at in the same way we do with "I hate my wife"-jokes.

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[–] chefdano3@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

As a man with 2 young kids, yes. Yes you do. It's an obligation for you to enjoy the free time as much as you can. I rely on my childless friends to fill me in on what's happening in the cultured world, because for me my life is nothing but Bluey, Paw Patrol, and Cocomelon.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I respect the honesty. Also consider replacing Paw Patrol and Cocomelon ASAP.

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[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 40 points 3 days ago

As a working parent, I ask that you consume my work product as you nobly chillax.

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