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Today, in a symbolic act, Iranians set fire to the flags of Israel and the United States, as well as an obelisk and a statue of Baal—which they described as a symbol of Satan—in various cities across Iran in response to the release of the Epstein documents.
Baal isn’t Satan - that’s just ignorant.
Also, building a statue of Baal and then burning it is just standard Baal-worship.
based tbh
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Say what you want, but their effigy-burning commitment is absolutely top notch.
They build a fucking statue that any Baal-worshiper would be thrilled to have in their home and then burn it.
That statue is awesome. Blows Banksy's picture-shredder out of the water.
I'm just wondering if they contracted the statue out to some artist without sharing their plans.
"You did what with it? Dude, that took me fifteen fucking months. MY WIFE LEFT ME!!!"
Burning a statue of Baal is metal as fuck. Set flame to the dying and rising god Baal, let his ashes bring strong harvests and renewal 🤘
I’m just wondering if they contracted the statue out to some artist without sharing their plans.
I think the first part is a safe assumption, but I can I can’t imagine any reason for secrecy. It may have been state or community or corporate funding.
Good reminder for all those who were calling on U.S intervention just some weeks ago
If I learned anything from Burning Man it’s that, in order to burn something in effigy, you first need to construct a combustible effigy.
Israel and US flag fit that description
... Now I wanna know why there was a statue of Baal on the street in iran. Like, is there a Baal worshipping segment of the population? Was it some ancient statue? An art piece? Ragebait? I have so many questions.
They built the statues specifically to burn them down for this symbolic act, they are not stone statues. I answered this to our other friend who asked as well🙏🏻
Oh that explains it, thank you! I wonder why Baal was singled out instead of just building a statue of satan himself? There's a cultural aspect here I'm missing.
Baal is actually in the Bible of Christians and Hebrews
Yeah, but... why go after baal for being satanic, instead of going after satan directly? I don't quite understand why baal is taking the spotlight when you could have simply made a statue of satan, but I'm sure there's a reason.
Muslims don't generally don't have a representation of what Satan looks like, Baal is an idol, already has a shape
Not an unreasonable explanation, thank you!
Because Baal is actually in the religious texts
If you're going for textual literalism sure fair enough, but what's confusing me is that they then go outside the bounds of that to invoke satan anyways. And aside from that, it's not like (figures that you can reasonably call a satan/devil analog if you dont want to start a fight) aren't in the Torah, Koran and Bible - why not build a statue of Iblis, the progenitor of devils? And why describe Baal as a symbol of satan instead of just going after satan directly, since that means you already believe satan exists?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out the symbolism here. Burning the flags is pretty clear, but the statue and the obelisk seem more like they're an act aimed at worshiping false idols (what Baal is primarily used for in the various texts) which... is that what they're accusing the US/Israel of? Because that seems like a largely semantic question given they're all worshiping the same god, and just burning a satan-analog would be a much clearer message about opposition to evil than the sorta abstract concept presented by Baal in any of the texts.
Iranians set fire to the flags of Israel and the United States, as well as an obelisk and a statue of Baal which they described as a symbol of Satan in response to release of the Epstein documents.
These bingo wins are getting way too specific ...
How is this a real event that got to world news?
(I'm not disputing anything, just the combination of events that lead to this.)
Missiles and anti-Israeli chants: Iran marks the 47th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution
One of the most striking scenes involved protesters setting fire to a sculpture representing Baal, an ancient Canaanite deity often invoked as a symbol of evil. The figure was depicted with a Star of David and an image of U.S. President Donald Trump, as crowds chanted “Death to Israel.”
Why did they have an obelisk and a statue of Baal?
Obelisk and statue of Baal are both associated with satanism, Obelisk is way more famous and way more used, Baal is a god representing high corruption and requiring child sacrifice from it's worshippers (even in bible). Jeffery Epstien also named his bank accound Baal which was seen in the Epstien Files.
Baal was just a normal local god for a long time. Actually several different gods, as the word just means God, but one was most famous. He was associated with weather and fertility. There's absolutely no evidence for human sacrifices. The Romans were more tolerant than the abrahamic religions. When they build the largest temple complex ever outside Rome in the city of Baalbek in Lebanon, they allowed the locals to worship Baal in the huge entrance hall to the Jupiter temple. The intolerant monotheistic religions invented all the bad stuff about him to gain influence. Today, you can get tours and visit jazz concerts in the temples, if Israel is not currently bombing the site of the irreplaceable world cultural heritage, which they did of course.
But my question is, what are they doing there? Who built them and for what purpose? I'm assuming this is in Iran. Those don't look like ruins, Baal was never worshiped in Iran to my knowledge, that Obelisk is decorated with hieroglyphs which aren't Iranian.
They built them to burn them down for this symbolic act
That's a level of petty I can get behind! Built specifically to destroy.
...they aren't stone buildings
I thought it was something that was made before the protest. I didn't think the protestors would make a statue and an obelisk just for a demonstration.
It’s not a spontaneous protest. It’s an organized commemoration of the Sha (a comprador of US empire) being overthrown 47 years ago.
a statue of Baal—which they described as a symbol of Satan
Cringe as fuck. "Satan" exist in a real manifestation in the form Capitalist Governments. You don't need throw religion into it.
Isn't there evidence that the Canaanite gods El and Ba'al were merged into Yahweh, who remains to this day the Christian god and the Islamic Allah? These people are burning their own god
Edit: My Lemmy client is messing up and won't let me respond to comments. Just wanted to add that yeah, the Muslim Allah is the same Abrahamic God that Christians and Jews worship. In fact, the name "Allah" is directly derived from the god "El":
The majority of scholars consider[Allah] to be derived from a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- and ilāh "deity, god" to al-lāh meaning "the deity, the God." Originally, ʾilāh was used as an epithet for the West Semitic creator god ʾIlu (the Ugaritic version of El), before being adopted as the proper name itself for this god
El, Ba'al, Yahweh, God, and Allah are all wrapped up in each other
Saying that polytheism and monotheism are actually the same thing and therefore they're burning their own god is quite a large stretch.
I didn't say that. Yahweh used to be a part of a polytheistic religion and over time became the only god. That doesn't make polytheism and monotheism the same thing, but it does make Allah and God the same god as the Yahweh from the original polytheistic religion.
You are so stupid
I don't really know about christians but for muslims, Allah was never a merge of other gods, so what you are saying is not correct when it comes to muslims.
Not true for christians either. There is the holy trinity, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit but they are seen as different expressions of the one god, not three gods merged into one.
Not canonically, but they mean historically and like sociologically.
Religion are just belief stolen from other religion that stole it from other religion since the start of religion anyway
So in that way yes it’s true for muslim too
Yeah, but don't you dare ask them why they have to walk counter-clockwise around a shrine with a meteor in it
Yeah but the guys who stole my religion were being guided by the real God!