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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 hours ago

Governments:

If you want people to start having kids again, put wealth caps in place world wide. For as long as there are billionaires and millionaires that hoard all the wealth and power, leaving only scraps for us to survive, we won't be having kids.

Wealth caps will redistribute the wealth back to governments, who can then use it for free healthcare, free education l, even universal basic income

Set that damned cap to 1 million dollars or something. High enough to make sure everyone can live very nicely but low enough to stop hoarding of wealth. Anything over 1 million? To taxes!

Once wealth is nicely spread around again, you'll see, people will start having kids again because now they have a life, resources, and joy in life.

"I wasn't going to have kids but I changed my mind when I got a letter from the government telling me it was time" --nobody

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 13 points 16 hours ago

I will start thinking of having kids, when goverments start taking global warming seriously and create a system, where I get to spend time with my kid without ruining myself economically.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

All we did was create an economy where no one has the time or money for kids... why is no one having kids!?

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 17 hours ago

California governor trying to force ppl back into office. That will certainly help to free up time with all the traffic ppl will be in!

/s

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Isn't false paternity a big issue there? Their ban on paternity tests isn't going to make men more comfortable starting families.

[–] Kkk2237pl@szmer.info 2 points 15 hours ago

I have many friends around this age or older.

Only people who got money for flat / house from family, have kids. Others waiting as they will be financially stable.

People want to have kids, but they often dont afford them..

[–] lasta@piefed.world 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For anyone else wondering why 29-year-olds specifically:

The letter is being sent to 29-year-olds becauseΒ women are able to have their eggs frozen at that age without a medical certificate. Women will also be reminded that social security in France covers the cost of freezing eggs for women between 29 and 37.

The article also does mention the arguments that short maternity leave, environmental concerns, and negative outlooks on the future in the country deters people from having children.

So not quite as harsh as the β€œhurry up and reproduce!” message the title implies.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ok that's actually reasonable. "Hey you're getting older, if you want kids now's a good age to either start trying or freeze some eggs" is something I never would have thought was necessary until entering my 30s and learning multiple people older than me in my life absolutely did not understand that they were approaching the "now or never" age and well into the age where bad luck can take all the chances they have left.

It's weird hearing people in their mid 30s say they plan on having kids someday

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

I had my first kid at 40. I wasn't raising kids in poverty or expecting to saddle a huge education debt on them.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

It's weird hearing people say they plan on having kids someday

FTFY.

I mean, FFS. Have they no eyes, ears, or lungs? gestures at all this current reality πŸ₯Ί

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Knowing how society, government, and policy have evolved over the past few decades, if any woman gets her eggs frozen, the elites will just take ownership if said eggs once the artificial wombs are perfected... or once they get enough slave surrogates to do it in the shadows on some island somewhere.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would I want to bring another person into this world hellscape?

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 14 points 1 day ago

For the oligarchs to use as slaves to make billions off of!

Or to rape, kill, and eat.

Unfortunately, we dont even get to choose which one.

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Here's an idea: make raising children affordable.

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's an idea: don't make your economic system rely on the fact that every single person reproduces

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

How about just make existing more affordable for everyone, whether they want kids or not.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 29 points 1 day ago

When I was growing up in the 80s they said global warning would affect our children's children so we should start doing something about it.

Guess what, it's happening to us, already. Why would I bring more people into it. At least I'll be dead before it gets really really bad but statistically I'll see things like the last Coral reefs dying and the amazon rain forest disappearing.

[–] ivanvector@piefed.ca 38 points 1 day ago

I hope everyone who gets one sends a letter back telling the government to get on with taxing the damn billionaires.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 33 points 1 day ago

A drop in birth rates is generally seen as a sign of increasing prosperity in a population... Up to a point. After a certain line it's a sign of decreasing financial confidence and insecurity.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reply with an invoice for €1 million.

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago

Not sure about France, but if you take a look at how much money the state is investing in each child here in Germany, that is quite a lot and well over 100.000€

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its always "have more children" and never "here is 1 million dollars to have a child comfortably"

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with community.

People aren't having kids because communities have been hollowed out.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And communities have been hollowed out because everyone is out for 9 hours a day making money.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Making money... So that they can buy a tv so they can spend their last two hours of awake time alone watching tv.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Cause my community meet up is totally at 8:30 PM directly after I put my kids down. I get it, if you want it you gotta put in the elbow grease. But this was done purposefully and it worked wonders.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How would children be treated if they are only conceived for the money?

How many parents would hand them a tablet and leave them to themselves?

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

If a country wants people to birth so much, it can cover the upbringing, no need to pay the parents.

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While France isn't as bad as the US

  • Make affordable "Family friendly" housing. It's hard to live alone in Paris, let alone as a family of four

  • Spend money in education so we have decent public school, and can deal with bullies

  • The whole global warming and geopolitical tension make getting kids scary, the 2020's looks like the bad scenario young millennials were talking about in the 00's.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think "invest in IRL social institutions and socially encourage and incentivise people to be positively involved in their IRL communities" and the babies will come soon enough.

But, instead the constant "your miserable life is for work" message doesn't really make people want to skiddley-poo.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

people always want to skiddely poo but only idiots accidentally reproduce

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

People might want to skiddley-poo but you actually have to meet someone IRL outside of work to do it.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

skip the outside of work part. do it right there !

why do you think so many people meet at work

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I think "so many people meet at work" because many people don't have any meaningful IRL social connections outside of work.

[–] istdaslol@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

we're this close tho have state mandated wives

β€œProcreation is creating one more human who is going to pollute and consume. It is a secondary reason for me, but I have friends who are clear they do not want children because of that,” he added.