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[–] cman6@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I'm all for a European system like this, but the only downside I currently see is that using Wero wouldn't provide any protection in the same way that a credit card does, unless I missed that on the Wero website.

Give me the consumer protection of a credit card and I'll sign up to Wero or whoever!

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Does Visa/Mastercard actually offer any protection themselves? When I've had to reverse debit card transactions due to fraud or otherwise, I always just called/reached out to my bank and they did it. I never communicated with Visa/MC. Since this system is pretty much SEPA in a trench coat, I'm pretty sure the same would work here.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

Yes they do offer actual protections.

A debit card while using visas processing network is still your banks account and their responsibility. And it's your personal money. Unlike a credit card which is NOT your money and not your sole liability. You are jointly liable with a credit card and solely liable with a debit card.

A credit card the account is with visa, tho it may be managed by your bank thanks to partnerships and bank end integration. Depending on the circumstances you actually will be directed by your bank to contact visa or who ever directly or be forwarded by your bank.

Debit cards are not credit cards. This seems to be a weird hang up people can't seem to understand. Doubly so when they are from Europe. It's always struck me as odd.

[–] cman6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That's a very good point - it isn't Mastercard or Visa involved in the card protection. Thank you!

So I guess I'm actually saying: if Wemo offer credit, then count me in!

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

what protection credit card provide?

[–] cman6@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

In the UK the credit card company are joint liable for any purchases over £100.

So if I buy X from company Y for £100, and company Y fails to deliver, or goes into administration, or whatever, I go back to the credit card company and get my £100 back. Or looked at another way, I don't pay them the £100 and they swallow the cost.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I'm glad to see Visa suffer, but I'm pretty concerned that Wero requires a proprietary phone app. There is no way to shop using Wero without this proprietary software.

[–] Scribbd@feddit.nl 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It doesn't require an app. When you pay, you select your bank and it will redirect you to a page that the bank provides. My bank provides a QR-code I can scan with their banking app, but it also offers a log in form to pay.

So I guess it is based on what your bank is willing to provide.

This is based on my experience with 'iDeal' the predecessor of wero.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Is Wero OpenSource ? Between me & you, I really hope GNU-Taler gets mass adoption they are on version 1.3 I think

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, i was thinking the same thing. Changing one evil for another.

[–] skulkbane@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

Finally someone is doing something about this. I worked in finans and people wouldn't believe the amount of money that goes to America because we use EMV and whatever the payment transaction system was called.

[–] englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is there any way to use wero without handing out my mobile phone number to everyone? I'd prefer handing over IBAN or some alias over phone number.

[–] Talvi@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Wero is basically just SEPA real time transactions under the hood, so you can just use your bank app to transfer via IBAN.

[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 7 points 4 hours ago

How to make this competitive vs. current, American owned networks?

Put a microtax in every financial transaction going out of the EU.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 63 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Hello, friends in civilized lands, especially those of you who work at financial institutions...

Some of us in the states are excited to watch you do some damage to the entrenched middlemen that have been skimming from all of us for so long. Please do consider letting us sign up for the new stuff. Our money is still worth something, for now!

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I agree 100% but also this is like when you watch your brother punch your dad to make him stop hitting your mom, and you know you're going to get the shit kicked out of both of you later for it.

...unless one of your grabs the crowbar and goes for broke...

Hey blue states...

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[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago

Seconded.

i would gladly make the switch if for no other reason than just playing a tiny part in screwing over Visa and MasterCard.

Why? Cause fuck em! That's why!

[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Have you guys heard about the player's club card?

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

We're all born bald, baby

[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Who loves ya, baby?

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 hours ago

What is GNU Taler?

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