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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 106 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

is that why they never use turn signals? you need a subscription?

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No, it’s because the peasants don’t need to know where I am going.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The assumption is that every peasant on the road will stop, move out if their way and politely greet them because of the higher BMW status. Just as they in turn have to defer to a Bentley or Rolls Royce. The hierarchy of cars.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's funny, because a boy I used to work with in a major UK city centre with lots of traffic congestion used to say "go for the gap in front of the ones with a nice car, they'll stop".

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In the same vein, never let them out of a junction out of politeness. They have enough privilege in their life, they can wait.

Banged up Corsa? Out you come, you've places to go.

Boring Ford Mondeo? Sure, I'll be nice.

Land Rover Evoque Sport? Get fucked, I've got right of way.

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well, RR is now BMW, so that tracks. Bentley’s are just an overpriced VW, so just another peasant.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

You joke but I actually had a co-worker once tell me that “I’m an adult, I don’t need to tell others where I am going.”

[–] Foni@lemmy.zip 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

oh yes, surely that idea helps them compete with Chinese cars, this is what they are going to add value to and justify their price

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

It lowers the upfront cost which is what millions of financially illiterate people think of first. $299 biweekly for 96 months! That’s $20 cheaper than XYZ

Never you mind how much extra it costs for radio or heated seats or the horsepower on the sticker.

[–] Foni@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It won't work for so many millions when Chinese cars are skyrocketing, competing on price with them is crazy. Combustion engines require advanced engineering, but electric ones are absolutely basic, we must look for another element that differentiates these brands, I would pay more for good open source and auditable privacy software that I know is not going to leave me stranded at the first opportunity.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago

The problem is that not enough people care about privacy, but it’s a valid approach. Just need to market it.

One of the challenges I think are the things you can’t notice until you live with a car. How much space does the seat heater actually heat? My old BMW heated quite far up the backrest while Japanese and Korean cars barely warm the lumbar area (and cycle on/off leaving you hot/cold respectively).
How good is the traction control? I have driven GM products shipped on this side of 2020 that only do torque limiting and the abs doesn’t seem to do pay any attention to the rear wheels. The system is very similar to 1980s functionality. Compared to a 2000s smart car, it’s downright dangerous. Does the HVAC work? I’ve had a Subaru (2014) that couldn’t heat or couldn’t cool the car, without having the fans on above normal speaking level (in fact it couldn’t cool the car at 25°C without recirculate on); my BMW on the other hand moderated heat output, heated seats, and heated mirrors based on the outdoor temperature; it was exceedingly comfortable. I never needed to adjust the climate controls.

The problem is that most people (as with privacy) don’t notice this. They may note the absence of the small luxuries if they change cars, but it’s difficult to market it, difficult to convince people to spend more on it, and difficult to include in press reviews without being a huge nerd.

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[–] CactusEcho@piefed.social 30 points 3 weeks ago

fuck the subscription model. I want to own my shit!

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I will never buy a bmw because of this, and they were on my short list of new car next year.

I'm probably going Volvo now, we will see.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 13 points 3 weeks ago

I went with a different brand too. One that just gave all those options as part of the basic package.

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[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most BMW drivers lease vehicles so they're already used to what amounts to subscription. My fear is that these news articles are actually designed to normalize this to buyers of brands where leasing isn't the default. They show how the affluent don't mind paying to convince the less fortunate it's a glamorous move.

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[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'd like to sit here and say well now I'm never going to buy a bmw, but I don't think that was ever going to be a choice on my part anyway.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago

Of course they will. BMW drivers aren't buying them because they're actually good cars.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Every upgrade in John Deere equipment of the same model is installed on every unit sold, just unplugged, because it’s cheaper to have the same build process.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

School bus transmissions have been like this for over 25 years. They're all built with 6 gears but if you only want 5 gears (which is ironically is all most school districts actually want) they just disable 6th gear. It used to be that there was a little bit of missing hardware (which could be added later for a considerable price) but now it's just disabled in software. In the skoolie community (people like me who buy used buses and convert them to motorhomes) you can get your software-disabled transmission upgraded to a six-speed for a few hundred bucks (dubious legality but who gives a fuck).

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Time to hack some John Deere hardware, I suppose.

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

Drove BMW my whole life and the brand no longer makes cars for people who like driving. Hard to imagine this is the company that made the e46 m3.

Coming up to 10 years of ownership on my 335i and it will be my final BMW. They literally don't even make a car that is more fun than my clapped out 335. Pathetic. It's all touch screens and electronic steering and shit that car enthusiasts despise.

Porsche is the only company still making good cars. Unfortunately that is also reflected in their prices.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Miata is always the answer.

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[–] Greddan@feddit.org 14 points 3 weeks ago

BMW owners feel like just the right demographic to pull this shit on. The kind of people to have every possible streaming subscription service running at the same time and blame their financial situation on "taxes".

[–] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago

It sounds like their market research told them they would make more money this way, and my own anecdotal evidence makes me think they are correct, unfortunately.

The area where I live has some diversity and some decent people, but it is majority white christian conservative. The amount of luxury SUVs I see rage-driving around town can be astounding at times. It's right up there with the amount of frighteningly expensive emotional support trucks with the drivers still wearing their ball caps and wrap-around shades on overcast days.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

Time to focus on jailbreak cars. We need to kill off the DMCA now!

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago

And i will never commit to BMW.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Now we all know that if we see someone in a BMW at a traffic light who looks particularly comfortable, that person is an idiot.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Guess what car I won’t buy.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 6 points 3 weeks ago

I wasn't gonna buy it before because the price for a bmw is fucking rediculous, but now I'll even more not buy one!

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That is a hill to die on. I wish you the luck that is deserved.

  • to bmw, not oc
[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

BMW has a big fanboy club. They will buy that shit simply because it's BMW.

[–] pimpampoom@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago

I guess my previous BMW will be my last one.

[–] NoxAstrum@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Considering I'd never buy one, great! I couldn't care less.

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[–] enterpries@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

BMW buyers are rubes, so it all make sense.

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess because BMW doesn't believe their customers make wise decisions?

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 10 points 3 weeks ago

They know their customers make unwise decisions. They got a bmw in the first place.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Are we sure they didn't just put the controls on the turn signal lever?

[–] Coyote@piefed.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] hissingmeerkat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Charging someone to use something they already own is extortion.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Shifting toward a subscription model at this stage in the game just screams “we are having money trouble.”

Which is ironic considering the image BMW has.

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[–] phar@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

This is a terrible article. It didn't give a single example. It also said there is subscriptions for things that need a constant connection. The connected drive stuff currently are things anyone can do without. This is very rage baity.

Completely off topic, but I couldn't help noticing that that is the ugliest car interior I have ever seen. From the wonky cornerless screen to I don't know what's going on with that steering wheel and the horrendously stripy all over the place centre console.

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