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[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

Are we sure they didn't just put the controls on the turn signal lever?

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Drove BMW my whole life and the brand no longer makes cars for people who like driving. Hard to imagine this is the company that made the e46 m3.

Coming up to 10 years of ownership on my 335i and it will be my final BMW. They literally don't even make a car that is more fun than my clapped out 335. Pathetic. It's all touch screens and electronic steering and shit that car enthusiasts despise.

Porsche is the only company still making good cars. Unfortunately that is also reflected in their prices.

[–] phar@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

This is a terrible article. It didn't give a single example. It also said there is subscriptions for things that need a constant connection. The connected drive stuff currently are things anyone can do without. This is very rage baity.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Now we all know that if we see someone in a BMW at a traffic light who looks particularly comfortable, that person is an idiot.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago (1 children)

is that why they never use turn signals? you need a subscription?

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, it’s because the peasants don’t need to know where I am going.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

You joke but I actually had a co-worker once tell me that “I’m an adult, I don’t need to tell others where I am going.”

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The assumption is that every peasant on the road will stop, move out if their way and politely greet them because of the higher BMW status. Just as they in turn have to defer to a Bentley or Rolls Royce. The hierarchy of cars.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's funny, because a boy I used to work with in a major UK city centre with lots of traffic congestion used to say "go for the gap in front of the ones with a nice car, they'll stop".

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

In the same vein, never let them out of a junction out of politeness. They have enough privilege in their life, they can wait.

Banged up Corsa? Out you come, you've places to go.

Boring Ford Mondeo? Sure, I'll be nice.

Land Rover Evoque Sport? Get fucked, I've got right of way.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

I think having an Evoque is punishment enough, it's officially the worst LR product lol

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[–] NoxAstrum@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

Considering I'd never buy one, great! I couldn't care less.

[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Most BMW drivers lease vehicles so they're already used to what amounts to subscription. My fear is that these news articles are actually designed to normalize this to buyers of brands where leasing isn't the default. They show how the affluent don't mind paying to convince the less fortunate it's a glamorous move.

[–] nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

Hell, based on recent approaches, these articles might primarily to help train LLMs to talk "the right way" about this stuff.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Every upgrade in John Deere equipment of the same model is installed on every unit sold, just unplugged, because it’s cheaper to have the same build process.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

School bus transmissions have been like this for over 25 years. They're all built with 6 gears but if you only want 5 gears (which is ironically is all most school districts actually want) they just disable 6th gear. It used to be that there was a little bit of missing hardware (which could be added later for a considerable price) but now it's just disabled in software. In the skoolie community (people like me who buy used buses and convert them to motorhomes) you can get your software-disabled transmission upgraded to a six-speed for a few hundred bucks (dubious legality but who gives a fuck).

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Time to hack some John Deere hardware, I suppose.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ukrainian hackers have been doing custom John Deere firmware for ages I believe.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 34 minutes ago

Slava Ukrani!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

yo fuck john deere pass it on

[–] Foni@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh yes, surely that idea helps them compete with Chinese cars, this is what they are going to add value to and justify their price

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It lowers the upfront cost which is what millions of financially illiterate people think of first. $299 biweekly for 96 months! That’s $20 cheaper than XYZ

Never you mind how much extra it costs for radio or heated seats or the horsepower on the sticker.

[–] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

$600 a month for 8 years. For a car. Plus a $99 subscription on top.

JFC

I'm with this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPjNFp0diWE

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

What's the saying? Only poor people can afford "cheap" shoes? (Though cheap at $600/month is doing a lot of work there)

Fuck that.

Gimme that indestructible Japanese shitox any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory

[–] Foni@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It won't work for so many millions when Chinese cars are skyrocketing, competing on price with them is crazy. Combustion engines require advanced engineering, but electric ones are absolutely basic, we must look for another element that differentiates these brands, I would pay more for good open source and auditable privacy software that I know is not going to leave me stranded at the first opportunity.

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[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd like to sit here and say well now I'm never going to buy a bmw, but I don't think that was ever going to be a choice on my part anyway.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

BMWs are great cars - as long as you buy ones that are at least 25 years old.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago

It sounds like their market research told them they would make more money this way, and my own anecdotal evidence makes me think they are correct, unfortunately.

The area where I live has some diversity and some decent people, but it is majority white christian conservative. The amount of luxury SUVs I see rage-driving around town can be astounding at times. It's right up there with the amount of frighteningly expensive emotional support trucks with the drivers still wearing their ball caps and wrap-around shades on overcast days.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So how does the car know if your subscription is valid?

Is it going to be like Microsoft when every so often your subscription is a deactivated until you can validate it again?

So your car will need to have constant connectivity to wifi or at least reconnect each day/week/month to confirm the subscriptions are still active?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, they have a cellular data connection.
It pays for itself, because the car manufacturer can sell the driving data to insurance companies.
And now it's used to make sure your brakes subscription is up to date

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 1 points 29 minutes ago

Yup and Toyota and all the other major companies have been selling your data since 2018. Some even earlier.

[–] CactusEcho@piefed.social 26 points 1 day ago

fuck the subscription model. I want to own my shit!

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I will never buy a bmw because of this, and they were on my short list of new car next year.

I'm probably going Volvo now, we will see.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

How's Volvo an alternative to BMW? They don't even offer engines with more than 4 cylinders nowadays lol

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 12 points 1 day ago

I went with a different brand too. One that just gave all those options as part of the basic package.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

And i will never commit to BMW.

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That is a hill to die on. I wish you the luck that is deserved.

  • to bmw, not oc
[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago

Of course they will. BMW drivers aren't buying them because they're actually good cars.

[–] enterpries@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

BMW buyers are rubes, so it all make sense.

Completely off topic, but I couldn't help noticing that that is the ugliest car interior I have ever seen. From the wonky cornerless screen to I don't know what's going on with that steering wheel and the horrendously stripy all over the place centre console.

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess because BMW doesn't believe their customers make wise decisions?

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

They know their customers make unwise decisions. They got a bmw in the first place.

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