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[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago

There's a common saying in reference to why designing bear-proof campground trash cans is so hard: there's a serious overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean by that bar, even copilot has 55% of the US beat :P

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 13 points 2 months ago

Yeah but so does my dog.

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Definitely wanna raise that number a bit

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

~Okay~ ^55%^

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

I just pulled it from

54% of adults have a literacy below a 6th-grade level (20% are below 5th-grade level).

If we looped in science deniers, climage deniers, flat earthers and chemtrails it could go quite high, but that's a difficult task as many of those overlap in the <6th grade venn diagram.

[–] Abrinoxus@lemmy.today 19 points 2 months ago

already smart as managers thats why they so popular with management. Of course they will never be actually able to replace management cuz of "reasons"

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's why I can't help but scoff when people say "It's not real artificial intelligence, it's just a stochastic parrot". Like my dude, have you ever interacted with the average person?

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That isn't what bothers me the most though. Earlier today I read a piece by a "tech journalist" in a paper I normally respect as doing proper work. The mentioned that one of the guys behind Claude says that Claude writes absolutely all their code now. They also said they did a test of one of the most recent models (released earlier this week), and that it wrote "A full Amazon-cloud based page that did various verification and authentication jobs, was about 67 000 lines of code, and was approved by the IT department in minutes in an afternoon". The last part tells me they have no clue what they're talking about. They just generated 67 000 lines of potential bugs that works, and which wasn't reviewed by anyone competent. Nobody reviews 67 000 lines of code in a day, let alone minutes. Just the fact that they thought generating a shitload of boilerplate (most of the lines were likely that) impressive, says enough.

It's not your average Joe thinking this is cool that bothers me (it is cool). It's when allegedly competent people start thinking the LLM actually has any idea what it's doing.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I worry about my Claude projects, that do simple tasks, that only I use, generally inside my home network where no one can exploit it not that anyone would want to.

Meanwhile, these huge companies are writing 50-100% of their shipping products used by millions in some cases.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Damn that hurts. I hate how right you are, take my upvote

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Smarter than my cousin Larry? Psht. There's a boxwood bush outside my bedroom window that's smarter than cousin Larry.

But realistically, the machines might be smarter than the average poorly motivated human in certain criteria. Hard to take anybody seriously that disagrees with that position.

On the other hand, an average human with sufficient and proper motivation? I'm still on team people in that case.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (7 children)

People always complain about AI slop, but the fact of the matter is, even a shitty AI produces better output than what the majority of people are capable of.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only if you're not familiar with the act of producing what the AI is trying to emulate the production of.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, just try to get the average person to write an email that's legible, concise and to the point.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Any literate person can do that? Despite the public education systems best efforts to train us all in such a manner as to overly pad everything out with an excessive quantity of superfluous filler words, many of which add nothing to the information communicated and may even continue long after the point is made.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

I have terrible news for you; people are not generally literate then.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

If you've ever read an AI email, they aren't capable of that either. It's a meme at this point that people use AI to write an email, which becomes far too long, and the reader uses AI to make it shorter. AI does not do concise and to the point.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

if the majority of people were incapable of meeting the standard of AI, then AI wouldn't have enough data to train on to be better than the majority. it's a lossy database of things that already exist, it cannot create novelty or surpass its training set.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most people can't do that either.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

AI doesn't produce data suitable for training AI. It's a huge problem when AI generated slop makes its way into the training set because it generally degrades the quality of the model. Like a photocopy of a photocopy.

So where is all the data its trained on to surpass most people come from? Do you think they're curating what they feed it based on IQ scores or something? Verifying accuracy, competency, etc? Or are you aware they just turn on the reddit/stackoverflow/github/etc. scrapers and start pumping them full of unfiltered 100% pure grade A internet bullshit?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's, I'm aware of that. But you don't seem to be aware of the fact that most cultural output (and yes, that includes Reddit shitposts) is produced by a small minority of people. Most people never contribute anything. So however shit the AI slop may be (which I'm not in any way denying), it's still better than what the majority of people can manage. Just look at the percentage of people that are functionally illiterate.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Im sorry dude but if your argument is reddit and stackoverflow are the basis for being "better than what the majority of people can manage" then I just have to respectfully disagree.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Then you obviously live in a bubble.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

To be fair, I do think the average accepted stackoverflow answer displays far more competence than the average human.

One of the few things I use LLM's for is giving me overviews of best-practice in things I'm not familiar with (before reading the posts I find to get more in-depth understanding)

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

I would assume they rank the stuff by vote-count.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Any person without training is infinitely better than an AI without training data.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A person without training data world be a blathering idiot. Any word you've ever heard, anything you've ever seen, smelled or otherwise perceived is data that was used to train the neural network in your head. And that's not counting the billions of years it took to hardwire the hardwired bits.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

A human with no experience in the field is liable to recognise that fact and start asking questions, showing doubt and learning. That's infinitely better than spewing incorrect bullshit.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

That majority of people that are worse than AI slop are also not producing anything, so we're not flooded with human slop. And when they do, we're supportive because you need to practice producing bad stuff before you can start producing good stuff.

If humans produced slop at the same rate as AI, I guarantee you that everyone will be complaining about it just the same.

[–] architectonas@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your concept of human being is questionable.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

What do you mean? Are you saying stupid people aren't real human beings?

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

yeah but I don't hire those people

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I'm seriously questioning what you consider good, then. That's the reason people call it "slop". It's not good.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

My toaster is already smarter than my brother in law

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The average tech bro.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Manager types are the easiest to replace with a LLM. And we actually didn't get much closer to AGI the last 10 years.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

Smarter than me already.

[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The poorly educated probably.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In this case, it really doesn't have to do with education.

[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol. The "poorly educated" are a segment of the US electorate that voted for trump.

It was a joke.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but my point is that ChatGPT clearly has a high level of education.
Where education refers to training someone to take in a lot of data and spew out similar data based on it.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

More than most would think. Everytime i see statements like this im reminded of a yellowstone ranger once on trash can lids: "theres a significant overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans". Then considering the rates of literacy and inability for people to find and discern information sources. I think people will be far more dissappointed in the reality of the situation.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

We live in a country where 77million people voted for a corrupt pedofile imbecile who committed an insurrection that he should have been hanged for live on TV

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Managers and tech billionaires

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Smarter than the bilioners.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

(Can't tell if you did that on purpose)