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[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Wait I'm confused, are they trying to ban the Girl Scouts?
Or is this like, the organization formerly known as "Boy Scouts" is just "Scouts" now, (like it's Co-ed scouts) and the chuds are pissed at that because boys are now playing with girls?
Jesus, these fuckwits get pissy about the stupidest fucking shit.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

It's the second one. Girl Scouts they have a separate beef with, I'm sure. But this is about Scouts being accepting of girls, because that "violates "DEI, because these assholes have decided they have a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY on tolerance.

I wish I was fucking kidding.

I hope all the pious jackasses that told me (and keep telling me) that Kamala/Biden was just as bad are fucking happy with themselves...

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's the organization formerly called the "Boy Scouts". The Girl Scouts is a wholely independent organization that doesn't, to my knowledge, receive money from the government to operate, hence Girl Scout cookies as a revenue source to fund activities.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm sure if Pedonald's goons find some way to punish Girl Scouts, they will surely pursue it.

But yeah, holding funds over Scouts is something they hope to lord over the Scouts, and all so they can make girls in Scouts cry, I guess? I mean that's the likely outcome here if the Scouts cave to these fucking demons.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago

Eh, im not comfortable with the scouts being associated with such a sketchy organization anyway.

[–] Aonifall@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does Hegseth know that the scouts aren’t part of the military and they’re a private organization? I’m just wondering because he doesn’t know much, especially when it comes to the military.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Does Hegseth know that the scouts aren’t part of the military

Eagle Scouts get advanced rank after basic/boot. That translates into pay. Kicking girls out of the BSA is basically denying them a valuable head-start.

Fun Fact: Did you know that being an Eagle Scout is recognized by the United States Military? Upon graduation from Basic Training in the USAF, USMC, US Army, or US Navy, an Eagle Scout is advanced to E-2. Be sure to tell your recruiter that you are an Eagle Scout!

https://www.hoac-bsa.org/blue-elk/eagle-scout

https://www.29palms.marines.mil/Articles/Article/499378/eagle-scouts-a-road-to-military-service/

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think Hegseth knows which side is up on any given day of the week.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago

This is insulting to Archer, who was actually intelligent, well read, well spoken, and good at his job

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well the planet keeps turning, it's not that easy to keep track!

[–] sober_monk@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

More like the room keeps spinning

Bitch, please. They weren't scared of the Mormons, and they took an even bigger financial hit for breaking up with them. You think they're gonna be scared of you? In this climate, the instant they announce cutting ties with you, fucking Taylor Swift or Mark Ruffalo will swoop in.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine being so invested in the extracurriculars of other people's kids

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hell, these are the same people that are obsessed with where other people poop.

Also, Hegseth concerns himself with facial hair, so...

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

The facial hair bullshit is to get rid of black soldiers.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Ah yes, return to the roots of boys will be boys

“For more than a decade now, Scouting America’s leadership has made decisions that run counter to the values of this administration and this department of war, including an embrace of DEl and other social justice, gender-fluid ideological stances. This is unacceptable,” Mr Parnell wrote on social media.

What were they up to before that decade?

Scout's Honor

In February 2020, the Boy Scouts of America filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. By the end of that year more than 82,000 former Scouts had come forward with claims of sexual abuse that took place during their time as members of the organization — meaning, of course, when they were minors. Their claims span across decades and generations, all over the United States.

I know not everything they do relates back to protecting the wealthy global pedophelia network, but honestly this probably does.

There were even troops where boys from unstable homes were targeted and recruited by "scout leaders" with the promise of offering them better lives.

New Orleans Boy Scout Troop 137

The scoutmasters preyed upon children from unstable backgrounds and used them for child pornography and their own sexual pleasure, as well as pimping them out to pederasts in and outside of Louisiana.

By May 1977, nineteen men were charged with abuse in relation to Troop 137. According to then-district attorney of Orleans Parish, Harry Connick, the clients had abused other children in thirty-four different U.S. states, as well as in England. Contacts of the troop to pederasts abroad, as far as Saudi Arabia, were discovered, as were filing cabinets full of letters dating back to 1956 of men requesting access to boys.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gender fluid is what Hegseth guzzles at airport bathrooms.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 19 hours ago

In long, stringy ropes.

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[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 138 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The relationship between Scouting and the Pentagon is also codified in law, which states that the Pentagon must seek a waiver from Congress if the military intends to cut its support, and explain why giving that assistance “would be detrimental to the national security of the United States”.

I love how they tag this minor detail onto the very end where they have to publicly justify it to congress rather than just doing whatever autocratic whim they feel like.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 hours ago

Watch them do it anyway. Who's gonna stop them?

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why does the military have anything to do with scouts?

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you get eagle scout you get a small raise when you join the military, same as if you had an associates degree.

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Scouts does do a really good job of preparing kids for the military if they so choose. Many of the hard and soft skills it teaches are very military-esque. Or put another way, I was chatting with another parent who's oldest just joined the military at 18 and they said the training is just like scouts and credited scouts with preparing them well for the military

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I was a scout, nah. We camped and helped old ladies at nursing homes.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Sort of depends on your troop. As a young teenager we had to endure winter survivalist training which included building usable sleeping quarters in the sub-zero snow and spending the night in them, by yourself. Yes you could come back to the main building but you failed at the training if you did. Actual chance of freezing. They gave you a styrofoam cup half full of chili but otherwise you were on your own for sustenance too, including water. It did give me a sense of independence, but also a fear of the cold.

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[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

The Pentagon funds the scouts? FFS...

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Republicans will do literally anything to avoid actually governing.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This kind of policymaking brought to you by Tough Secure Manly Men, we swear

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would like to point out that Kegsbreath was not a Scout.

Also, even if he was, how having girls in the Scouts affects him, personally, is a real mystery.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was in scouts. People brought their sisters to meetings all the time. They joined in whatever we were doing and it was fine. I also went on a couple girl scout trips. I don't even remember how that happened but we had a fun time. Most of the girls I met as a kid and remained friends with through my teens I met through scouts. Good experiences all around.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 20 hours ago

Good experiences all around.

Hegseth can't be having with any of that nonsense!

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[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (13 children)

The real enemy to America all along...Girl Scouts and their cookies. /s

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The MAGA asswipes would like to transform the Boy Scouts into their version of the Hitler Youth, Young Pioneers and other fucked-up youth groups for brainwashing purposes.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Mormons used it specifically for indoctrinating young men into their own cult for decades. They were BSA's biggest sponsor for fucking ever, since participating was mandatory for Mormon boys. Breaking ties with the Mormons over gay rights was a big fucking deal. It was a cultural nuke at the time when I was in Utah.

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

When Jesus forgives is an excuse for eliciting children.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 day ago (6 children)

So fucking weird that they care so much.

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[–] MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Just going to comment here to avoid some misconceptions. Apologies for the long comment. Tl;Dr, Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are not part of the same parent organization.

Scouting America is basically a rebrand for Boy Scouts of America. The rebrand happened when they began to admit girls into the program, like 8 years ago or do. Many people get confused thinking that Boy Scouts of America and Girl Scouts USA are partner organizations when they are not. They are two independent programs with different missions and values. For example, Boy Scouts has maintained Declaration of Religious Principle which requires to members to sign an agreement that states that they believe in some sort of higher power. They also include a Duty to God in their Scout Oath. Girl Scouts on the other hand is a secular organization that does not require a belief in any higher power but does encourage members to explore their own faith if they have one.

The decision for BSA to admit girls was a controversial one even within the organization, but their numbers have been flagging for a while and they felt that allowing girls in would help. There was also a more progressive wing within the organization that recognized how discriminatory this was and wanted to reform the organization. Joining Boy Scouts, with an organizational emphasis on nature, citizenship, and skill mastery, would be a different experience for girls than Girl Scouts, which allows troops to pick for themselves what they want to focus on to develop leadership and confidence and often doesn't include camping at all. Many girls joined Girl Scouts expecting it to have the same focus as Boy Scouts, would be disappointed, and then drop out. This could give the Boy Scout experience to girls.

In order to make this happen, it was agreed that girls would have separate troops from boys. They could share resources but each troop would have their own youth and adult leaders and would need to camp in separate sites. It is not like they are sharing tents or anything like that.

So that's why it is obvious to me that the Pentagon taking this stance is clearly regressive and just trying to be anti-woke and going after an easy target. The military is already coed, so why not give girls the same support and experiences that boys can have in Scouting? Its just another red flag that they want to prevent women from advancing in the military. They know that Scouting America is in a tough spot and thinks they can either get them to regress and tacitly endorse anti-wokeness or be made an example of.

There's another recent change in Scouting America that was also controversial and seen as woke that the article doesn't address. Following the George Floyd protests Scouting America came up with a new merit badge that would be required for any scout that wanted to reach the rank of Eagle: Citizenship in Society. This badge explicitly discusses racial injustice and teaches Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion principles. As you can imagine, this did not sit well with conservative members and many left in protest (though many had already left when girls and gays were allowed). There have been a few different new organizations attempting to recapture the old school Boy Scout mentality with a doubled down emphasis on gender exclusivity, religion, and pure meritocracy without any regard to positions of privilege. They are growing and I suspect one will try to replace Scouting America as the youth organization of choice for the military.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Lol I know like a dozen eagle scouts and today 100% of them are gay or trans. Trying to keep the BSA conservative while every uncomfortable father is enrolling their pansy son is a game of entropy that the right cannot win.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

Lol that's hilarious actually... Maybe they're afraid of this being a source of military training for leftists.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I guess they are arguing the Scouts arent educational or work. As both work and education have laws banning discrimination based on sex if they receive federal funding.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fascists don't make a case. They just use force. In their view, argument and reason are for the weak, and the weak should not live.

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