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Countries are growing uneasy about their dependence on U.S. technology firms.

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Ramp it up!

The worst crime you can commit under capitalism is not participating, not buying, not renting, etc. These tech companies are built on debt that is serviced by profits.

Moving the needle down and impacting their income by even 5% will have a huge impact on a business’s bottom line and in turn a CEO’s income, bonuses and stock options etc.

If you want to make Trump and his regime change then you have to hit the only people he will listen to… his fellow oligarchs.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They had already gone off the deep end. They've been enshittifying everything they can get their hands on and monetizing the slightest edge they can to everything as well. Tech bros are just the pharma bro multiplied. People that bring no value to the world make things that they have no knowledge about or input on behind pay walls because they can. It's for the shareholders brah! Rid the world of nepo CEOs and we'll all be in a better place. Also "economics" belongs with the other junk science like chiropractors. Some of them are great and some of the science is needed. Most of it is just junk that only makes sense to them and their schemes.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

Oh Blockbuster, who art in heaven

Hallowed be thy memory

Thy storefront come

Thy movies return

On Earth as it is in Heaven

Give us this day our daily movie rentals

And forgive us our shortsightedness

As we forgive those who exploit us for money

And lead us not into micro-transactions

But deliver us from enshittification

For thine is the Weekend

The Power and the Vibes

Forever and ever

Amen

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Silicon Valley people who wanted Trump are so fucking stupid its absurd.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 5 points 33 minutes ago

Anyone who voted for trump is so fucking stupid it's absurd.

[–] bestelbus22@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

It's all so unnecessary. But at least we finally do something about digital sovereignty in the EU.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'd say that individual companies need to make contingency plans for when the US puts up their own great firewall (assuming they haven't already, since I'm in the US).

I think it would be prudent for nations that have Google/Amazon/Microsoft datacenters in them to create legislation that allows them to nationalize or detach those services from the US. I have no doubt that we will eventually have our own policy that gives us the privilege to snoop on foreign data in foreign datacenters that are running US owned hardware.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 4 hours ago

For this to be practical you need to audit and control the code the runs in the data center. I think that was a hangup with some Chinese based services that offered to host in the EU.

[–] BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Remember the internet was invented by the US government, so was the dark web and they didn't let the common people use it out of the goodness of their heart.

[–] eagerbargain3@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

I’m selfhosting most of my stuff now and did closed 500 accounts, still 960 to review. It take times but I always while closing enter a comment like “lost confidence in USA for the next 50 years thanks to Trump” BTW most services don’t let you delete your account, in this case I empty all my personal data, upload blank images for profile, anonymize field, move email to temp mailbox and delete my password.

I did some architecture and implementation to Azure for a big client, now moved to pure AKS with only OSS software, nest step for thémis to quit US cloud, a lot easier if you use pure kubernetes.

I think it is good that we reduce our reliance on US stacks, but not at the cost of using Chinese softwares.

Deleting Reddit, instagram, facebook was really the easiest and most satisfying of all.

I plan to organize meetup on sovereignty, privacy and self hosting soon too 😇

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

I'd always get paranoid that they'd revert the changing your details like reddit did when they undeleted mass-deleted comments before.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

closed 500 accounts, still 960 to review

(⊙_⊙)

How??

[–] welfare_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

Gotta have privacy for his bot farm

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

1400 fucking accounts! My mind cannot comprehend that number.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

My question is how does someone even know the number of accounts they have lmao

Like, over the past 2+ decades I've been using the Internet, I can't even give an estimate of how many accounts I have.

[–] Beep@lemmus.org 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

How does one reach even more than 20 accounts?

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I have over 200 logins overall, but most of them are to forums that have been dead for a decade.

The internet used to be quite a different place back in the day, people had separated communities and everything wasn't just on a handful of massive platforms.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is determined to turn the US into the world's biggest island.

South America is going to need a real defense pact unless they want to be the victims of the Monroe Doctrine forever.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Haven't you heard? It's the Donroe doctrine now.

I'm not even joking.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not going to google that because I don't want that fact in my brain.

[–] stupor_fly@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago

.... I did and theres a whole Wikipedia page about it already

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donroe_Doctrine

This president is such a a fire hose of shameful nonsense it's impossible to keep up

[–] canofcam@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

As a QA, I raised the very real risk that should tensions with America escalate, they could effectively cut us off and our business would be kaputt.

What happens if AWS goes down? We use Google. What happens if both go down (or cut us off)? We're fucked.

The answer to me raising the risk was a, "Haha, yeah, true, we'd be in big trouble..." but there's no actual appetite to do anything about it. We're so tied up in AWS that I can't imagine there ever will be.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

You'd think the few global AWS and Cloudflare outages would have worked as a warning, but most people just went from "nah it couldn't ever happen" to "well, it did happen, but surely it wouldn't ever last all too long".

[–] kaljakoripallomaha@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

That’s the thing, we’re all so tightly involved in those few platforms it’s near impossible to correct the situation in the short term.

In our company we’re also documenting the risks related to US services and it’s pretty bleak. And even if we magically untangled ourselves from all that, we’d still be screwed when all the suppliers, the local infrastructure and literally everything is still on top of those. Honestly I’m not even sure if we’d get through the doors or have electricity in the whole cities we operate in if all went out at once.

The best we can do in short term is to not make it worse and choose wiser with new projects, migrate everything that can be done cheaply and hope for the best until we can get everything lifted off US governed services. Even with the risk recognised, it still doesn’t warrant that magnitude of investment. So we at least plan and document everything as well as we can.

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I feel you dude

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 hours ago
[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

I don't think ICANN

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

imagine if this collapses their Economy

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

to be honest, it might have a significant impact. the US tech today serves a global market, but if that market gets reduced to just the US, that is probably a significant cut.

It would only help us here. Everyone buying it or allowing their data to be traced is basically funding pedos and murderers.

[–] MrsVeggies@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 hours ago

There's no reason to think that they won't also lose US markets. I live in the US and trying to cut my reliance on US tech. 

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Chinese open-source foundation models are already enabling small countries and companies to build their own large language models.

Had to be mentioned of course, in the context of critical technologies. 🙄

SEO is a bitch.

[–] Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip 48 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm playing my part... Undoing a large part of a SaaS platform I've been building, to detangle it from AWS and reimplement for Scaleway/UpCloud. This is a significant practical setback for me, but I can no longer live with myself giving dollars to both Bezos AND a fascist regime every month. Not to mention the direct risk of the US fucking with my business down the track for any old batshit reason. Account closed.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

UpCloud is nice but ever since I started using UpDog I don't think I can go back.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Unfortunately the DevOps world has largely left Ligma based services behind. Good luck finding someone with under 15 years in the industry familiar with it.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Waits patiently for someone to ask what it is

[–] krasogad@lemmy.zip 2 points 45 minutes ago

What's UpCloud? 😆

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