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She was saved by the police.

Source: Minnesota Public Radio

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 170 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The woman’s husband eventually arrives and tries to intervene, and he made a separate recording of the interaction on his phone. He tells the agents not to search her car because they don't have a warrant and it would be an illegal search. The agents appear dismissive of his constitutional concerns.

"I'm not getting into the legality of everything," one agent responds tersely.

MPR News interviewed the woman and her husband, who also doesn't want to be identified, fearing retaliation.

The woman said the agents put her into one of their vehicles and started driving toward the Twin Cities, presumably to the Whipple Federal Building near MSP Airport, where ICE has an immigration detention facility. About 20 minutes into the drive, when they were near Le Sueur, she says one of the agents got a call, apparently from an ICE supervisor. They turned off Highway 169 at the next exit and drove back toward St. Peter.

The husband told MPR News that after his wife was taken into custody, he called his attorney, and soon after, he got a call from St. Peter Chief of Police Matt Grochow, whom he said he has known for years.

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Observations:

  1. They execute a high-speed box stop which is dangerous to not just the innocent observer, but bystanders, all while there is zero evidence of any illegal conduct happening.

  2. From the recording they all had guns drawn and pointed from the moment they stepped out of the car, meaning there was no escalation - they emerged ready to use deadly force without any grounds or justification. The only explanation is intent to kill or unlawfully intimidate.

  3. Those thugs were potentially driving her to be flown out of Minnesota. After that, who knows. They were informed of the unconstitutionality of an illegal search and demonstrated they didn't care.

  4. The only reason she was saved was that the husband knew the local chief of police, which - while great and especially nice for local communities where this is more common - is certainly not going to apply to everyone.

In any normal timeline they would all be fired and potentially be the basis for a constitutional rights violation suit for multiple reasons above.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 109 points 2 days ago (6 children)

At this rate, we're going to literally have ICE agents hanging from lamp posts soon enough.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Escalate to where? They are already executing US citizens in the street who haven't done anything remotely illegal?

And not even receiving fake punishments to try and reassure the public that's not what is actually happening.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's always marching people to mass graves and shooting them by the thousands or millions. Not quite there yet, but it's the same monsters

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Friendly reminder that thousands of detainees from this past year are missing with no records. There were tens of thousands of missing people his last term too.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Escalate to where?

Tiananmen Square style massacre. Oligarchs saw that in 89 and thought, gee I'd like to do that in America and put the little people in their place.

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[–] Kevlar21@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Lamp posts, trees, I don’t really care what they hang from.

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[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I hope so. I don't think Americans have the gumption to stand up for themselves though.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (10 children)

There are more of us than there are of them, and the military isn't going to go along with this nonsense.

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 126 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jumping out with guns drawn. This looks like a gang robbery.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 63 points 2 days ago

The way they whipped up and piled out I 100% thought they were about to carjack someone.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago

Thats a fucking gang attempting kidnapping

[–] n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Remember:

1] The US public has no right to film ICE (per the DOJ). 2] ICE has complete immunity, and you have no due process. 3] ICE hates cameras.

4] therefore, it's illegal to film ICE. (do it anyway)

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have a constitutional right to film from a safe distance while on public land like sidewalks, etc. ICE is breaking the law wholesale by targeting citizens exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ICE is breaking the law wholesale by targeting citizens exercising their 1st Amendment rights

Yes, you're in the right, and ICE is in the wrong, and keep filming them, just know that being right isn't always healthy.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you do illegal things, you’ll put put into the criminal category they want to put you into anyway. Resisting qualifies you as criminal as well.

So there is no incentive to comply.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

According to the bootlicking chodes I've argued with recently, just existing anywhere near ICE performing their kidnapping operations is obstruction.

Apparently getting shot in the back 10 times is excusable if you were somehow preventing ICE from disappearing people by standing on a public sidewalk. It's total psychopath abuser mentality.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Fine. Tell them you have a list of horrible dangerous people and I can kill anyone I want on that list. They are there for a reason. That’s what the list is for.

Side note, I can put whoever I want on the list. There is no oversight. Justification is irrelevant. Do not question the list.

Ask them if they get it once you say they are on that list.

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 16 points 1 day ago

I reckon she didn't have a bazooka. No 2nd amendmente of course. This is the land of the free (violence), after all.. what's the news? /s ...

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Treat them like crimminals is a good long term strategy where law enforcment works for its citizens.

[–] breezeblock@lemmy.ca 67 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Look at that terrible technique — swerving dangerously. They are untrained clowns being prepared to become trumps personal militia.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago

How about pointing all their guns at the driver then assaulting her physically? That's also terrible technique.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If I am boxed in by a car with no police lights with masked men jumping out and immediately pointing guns at me..... Floor it. This is self defense because I have no way of knowing who is threatening my life. With guns drawn you can't see POLICE on the vests either.

I would prefer that and deal with the aftermath after.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The aftermath might be you're dead... but eventually this is going to happen and they will survive and it's going to go to court. I would love to see the precedent get set that it was indeed self defense.

This masked non identifying shit is insane.

[–] AndrewInATree@piefed.ca 26 points 2 days ago

I mean, they jumped out with guns drawn. There was really no chance to move the car at that point and survive. They did it to Renee Good. They'll do it again.

Sounds like a case of in for a penny in for a pound. Don't let kidnappers take you to point b.

[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 28 points 2 days ago

The piece of shit Trump wants a civil war. This is how he will get it. Fuck ICE. Fuck Trump. And FUCK everyone who wants this.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Something to remember about situations like this where time is of the essence, don't just yell "Someone call 911/for help!" Actually DESIGNATE someone from the crowd to do so. The bystander effect assumes that someone else will do it. Don't let people think like that. While doing CPR, you're told to point specifically at someone to call for assistance. Same goes for something like this.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

Yep, point to someone and loudly command them to call 911 NOW. This is First Aid 101.

Had to do that myself once, not a fun time. Had an emotional breakdown after. EMT and medical professionals at large have my utmost respect.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 38 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Police are Allowed to Protect people AGAINST ICE?

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

I won't be impressed until police officers start actually arresting these fake "federal agents" when they assault someone. Put the fear of the actual law in these lawless motherfuckers.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can ICE chase you? Like if you stop and then take off? I know they will probably shoot, but seems like they will shoot either way.

[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago

Yes, they can chase. They do not operate under any known laws, rules or jurisdiction.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Can they? No, they don't engage in law enforcement. Will they chase you? Absolutely, because they give no fucks and won't be held accountable.

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[–] sobchak@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

I read a post from someone in MN that said ICE typically doesn't pursue people that run (on foot or vehicle). They can chase you, probably not legally in most cases, but laws don't apply.

[–] pelley@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago

ICE is not about the law. It's about terror and proving there are no limits on their power.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 20 points 2 days ago

I'm cross-posting this post to !crimes_of_ice@lemmy.4d2.org so they can archive it.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They should have been shot. The agents that is.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That unmarked car stops me without warning and four masked men with guns drawn jump out of the car I'm assuming I'm in a fight for my life.

I'd lose, but you're dead either way in that scenario. This woman came within moments of the end of her life.

Anyone's best bet is to try to swerve around in that situation, before they stopped. I've had yahoos once try to box me in like that when road raging. You don't know what they'll do once they get out, so just swerve around before you find out.

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

At this point try to get a bulletproof windshield and run them over when they point a gun at you

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