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She was saved by the police.

Source: Minnesota Public Radio

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 171 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The woman’s husband eventually arrives and tries to intervene, and he made a separate recording of the interaction on his phone. He tells the agents not to search her car because they don't have a warrant and it would be an illegal search. The agents appear dismissive of his constitutional concerns.

"I'm not getting into the legality of everything," one agent responds tersely.

MPR News interviewed the woman and her husband, who also doesn't want to be identified, fearing retaliation.

The woman said the agents put her into one of their vehicles and started driving toward the Twin Cities, presumably to the Whipple Federal Building near MSP Airport, where ICE has an immigration detention facility. About 20 minutes into the drive, when they were near Le Sueur, she says one of the agents got a call, apparently from an ICE supervisor. They turned off Highway 169 at the next exit and drove back toward St. Peter.

The husband told MPR News that after his wife was taken into custody, he called his attorney, and soon after, he got a call from St. Peter Chief of Police Matt Grochow, whom he said he has known for years.

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Observations:

  1. They execute a high-speed box stop which is dangerous to not just the innocent observer, but bystanders, all while there is zero evidence of any illegal conduct happening.

  2. From the recording they all had guns drawn and pointed from the moment they stepped out of the car, meaning there was no escalation - they emerged ready to use deadly force without any grounds or justification. The only explanation is intent to kill or unlawfully intimidate.

  3. Those thugs were potentially driving her to be flown out of Minnesota. After that, who knows. They were informed of the unconstitutionality of an illegal search and demonstrated they didn't care.

  4. The only reason she was saved was that the husband knew the local chief of police, which - while great and especially nice for local communities where this is more common - is certainly not going to apply to everyone.

In any normal timeline they would all be fired and potentially be the basis for a constitutional rights violation suit for multiple reasons above.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 109 points 7 months ago (5 children)

At this rate, we're going to literally have ICE agents hanging from lamp posts soon enough.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Escalate to where? They are already executing US citizens in the street who haven't done anything remotely illegal?

And not even receiving fake punishments to try and reassure the public that's not what is actually happening.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's always marching people to mass graves and shooting them by the thousands or millions. Not quite there yet, but it's the same monsters

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[–] Kevlar21@piefed.social 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lamp posts, trees, I don’t really care what they hang from.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why stress the trees out with the extra weight. They don't deserve to be harmed by ICE either.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 months ago (10 children)

There are more of us than there are of them, and the military isn't going to go along with this nonsense.

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[–] n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At this rate, we'll be forced to house ICE agents. I really think they'll try.

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[–] breezeblock@lemmy.ca 67 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Look at that terrible technique — swerving dangerously. They are untrained clowns being prepared to become trumps personal militia.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 40 points 7 months ago

How about pointing all their guns at the driver then assaulting her physically? That's also terrible technique.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In MSP as soon as they sent in actual trained people (the state's national guard) things calmed down. It's amazing how well they can handle a situation.

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[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 66 points 7 months ago

Thats a fucking gang attempting kidnapping

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (3 children)

If I am boxed in by a car with no police lights with masked men jumping out and immediately pointing guns at me..... Floor it. This is self defense because I have no way of knowing who is threatening my life. With guns drawn you can't see POLICE on the vests either.

I would prefer that and deal with the aftermath after.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The aftermath might be you're dead... but eventually this is going to happen and they will survive and it's going to go to court. I would love to see the precedent get set that it was indeed self defense.

This masked non identifying shit is insane.

[–] AndrewInATree@piefed.ca 26 points 7 months ago

I mean, they jumped out with guns drawn. There was really no chance to move the car at that point and survive. They did it to Renee Good. They'll do it again.

Sounds like a case of in for a penny in for a pound. Don't let kidnappers take you to point b.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Something to remember about situations like this where time is of the essence, don't just yell "Someone call 911/for help!" Actually DESIGNATE someone from the crowd to do so. The bystander effect assumes that someone else will do it. Don't let people think like that. While doing CPR, you're told to point specifically at someone to call for assistance. Same goes for something like this.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Yep, point to someone and loudly command them to call 911 NOW. This is First Aid 101.

Had to do that myself once, not a fun time. Had an emotional breakdown after. EMT and medical professionals at large have my utmost respect.

[–] VeganBtw@piefed.social 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

To anyone reading this, the bystander effect is maybe not as strong as we once thought. Mainly because a 2019 study showed more than 200 real-life situations caught on CCTV where the bystander effect was not shown to happen.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It wasn't even real in the Kitty Genovese case, which is the most famous "example" of it happening.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

It's still good practice. Suddenly everyone is looking at that person to do the thing, and if they don't the problem is more clear.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 38 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Police are Allowed to Protect people AGAINST ICE?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

We found the good cop. Yay!

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[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago

If your husband is personally friends with the police chief, yes.

[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 28 points 7 months ago

The piece of shit Trump wants a civil war. This is how he will get it. Fuck ICE. Fuck Trump. And FUCK everyone who wants this.

[–] n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Remember:

1] The US public has no right to film ICE (per the DOJ). 2] ICE has complete immunity, and you have no due process. 3] ICE hates cameras.

4] therefore, it's illegal to film ICE. (do it anyway)

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You have a constitutional right to film from a safe distance while on public land like sidewalks, etc. ICE is breaking the law wholesale by targeting citizens exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you do illegal things, you’ll put put into the criminal category they want to put you into anyway. Resisting qualifies you as criminal as well.

So there is no incentive to comply.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

Treat them like crimminals is a good long term strategy where law enforcment works for its citizens.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Can ICE chase you? Like if you stop and then take off? I know they will probably shoot, but seems like they will shoot either way.

[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago

Yes, they can chase. They do not operate under any known laws, rules or jurisdiction.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Can they? No, they don't engage in law enforcement. Will they chase you? Absolutely, because they give no fucks and won't be held accountable.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Not arguing, but they are fat lazy fucks that mainly seem to harass people in a specific location. Never seen any run or make too much of an effort besides public executions.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

This is the issue though. They'd rather shoot than run

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh you meant a foot chase? I serious doubt they'll do that, they have problems moving in the snow. They'd probably just start shooting.

There is one example I can think of them chasing from Chicago.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All of their cars are dogshit SUVs or minivans. Anyone on something even remotely fast can wipe the floor with those goons.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

I won't be impressed until police officers start actually arresting these fake "federal agents" when they assault someone. Put the fear of the actual law in these lawless motherfuckers.

[–] pelley@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 42 points 7 months ago

ICE is not about the law. It's about terror and proving there are no limits on their power.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 20 points 7 months ago

I'm cross-posting this post to !crimes_of_ice@lemmy.4d2.org so they can archive it.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They should have been shot. The agents that is.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That unmarked car stops me without warning and four masked men with guns drawn jump out of the car I'm assuming I'm in a fight for my life.

I'd lose, but you're dead either way in that scenario. This woman came within moments of the end of her life.

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 16 points 6 months ago

I reckon she didn't have a bazooka. No 2nd amendmente of course. This is the land of the free (violence), after all.. what's the news? /s ...

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

At this point try to get a bulletproof windshield and run them over when they point a gun at you

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago

We all know this is one of the worst crimes just below having an accent and non white skin.

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