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Confirmed by AP news here (go directly to slide 4 in the slideshow for more information)

For those who don’t want to click the link:

And here is info on the “1st Ukrainian Division”

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[-] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you guys are being a bit over the top here about his:

Germans made three political concessions: It was stipulated that the division shall not be used to fight Western Allies, and would be used exclusively to "fight Bolsheviks". The other concession was in that its oath of allegiance to Hitler was conditional on the fight against Bolshevism.

Good thing there's no link between anti communism and fascism

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Bolshevism didn’t exist during WWII, therefore the Ukrainian SS division wasn’t actually loyal to Hitler

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yes he took the oath of allegiance to the head nazi, but how do we know he was actually a nazi and not just a brave freedom fighter?

[-] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

In the 50s and 60s, the easiest way to gain entry into Canada for immigration was to show a Nazi tattoo. This proved one was ideologically anti-communist and thus safe.

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

had me in the first half

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Things the 'good guys' do:

Bring out and parade around a Nazi for applause while brazenly lying about his actual identity and the nature of his service

[-] TawnyFroggy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

hahahahahahahaha

[-] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

fidel needs to come back and beat some sense into his son

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Parading around the OUN flag... That really disturbs me. No liberal has learned anything from the holocaust except "history repeats itself", pretending it's a law of physics.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

No liberal has learned anything from the holocaust except "history repeats itself", pretending it's a law of physics.

They sure seem to want it to repeat itself as many times as needed

[-] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Our Deputy Prime Minister Christian Freeland was more than happy to pose behind the banner last year

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

She was also probably the first person to trot out the "mentioning Ukrainian nazis is Russian propaganda!" line when asked why her grandfather worked for a nazi propaganda rag.

[-] showmustgo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Completely on brand and absolutely no one in the MSM sphere will question who was fighting against the Russians in WW2

hitler-detector tito-chad Right this way barbara-pit

when are we going to hear about brave resistance to the Russians liberating Auschwitz

[-] JuneFall@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I did not have that on my bingo card for this year.

[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Holy shit "people that fought in the nazi army were nazos is Russian propaganda.

Anybody else notice how this "Russian propoganda" has had a way stronger connection to reality than the libs explanation of everything for the last couple years.

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i posted about this Nazi and then had a debate with my close friend. He's like, an anarchist or something, but he has the most lib take on Ukraine.

I pointed out all the nazis and nazi monuments, he says "what about Americas confederate statues?" I said both could be bad and that moving the goalposts and whatboutism.

Then he said he supports the right to self determination for Ukraine. So i said what about Donbass aka LPR and DPR. He said that's a Russian psyop, and it doesnt matter that eastern Ukraine is mostly ethnic Russians. He said he'd support Barcelona leaving Spain if they did it "democratically." Like fucking lol. #vote

Of course, he's an "anti-authoritarian" who basically hates all "dictators" like Stalin, and he doesn't like China at all either. He also wants the wealthy to get redacted. This is why I can't take anyone seriously when they just spout off against all "authority." I think it mostly stems from him hating his mother and still acting like a petulant teenager. Authority isn't going anywhere, it will always be around in one form or another. And anybody who can't even critically support current and former AES just sounds like a stupid leftist who will truly get nothing done. You can't just skip every step and end up at anarchy, that's an 16 year olds view of anarchism.

I sent this to my libertarian-turned-lib friend and he immediately said, "Oh he must have been Ukranian Resistance after the war." But they said he fought in WWII. "Oh well it was late in the war and he didn't get convicted of any war crimes." Libs refuse to believe that any Ukrainian can do wrong throughout history now. Canada is apologizing profusely today because they "didn't know the guy was a Nazi."

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

"Russia bad" syndrome is pretty fucking insane, its crazy to see people still clinging to cold war rhetoric, especially being born after the cold war. My "anarchist" friend seems to think NATO is a good thing, like it's not imperialist or unjust in any way. He's ok with what happened in Libya. That on top of never find an actually existing Socialist state to support just shows me that libs like him don't support a real path to revolution. I think my friend is just a stupid idealist, who thinks we can revolution and skip all the other steps and get right to anarchism or pure communism. But that isn't going to happen unless the revolution is worldwide(which is probably won't be)

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

When someone claims to be an anarchist but they support NATO its just.... ok you SAY you're against all states but somehow you're for a military alliance of multiple... states? Thats not anarchism anymore.

Like I may disagree heavily with anarchists who include AES states in their "I"m against all states" stuff but if they are actually consistent about hating states and hate the imperialist powers too then like, at least thats consistent. But so often its not that way. Being "anti-authoritarian" just ends up being an excuse to follow the US state department line to a T.

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this stupid nerd was in model UN so i think he still hasnt shaken those brainworms.

it's impossible to be revolutionary and anti authoritarian. like ok, so we won't oppress class traitors etc during or after the revolution, because it's anti authoritarian? how the fuck couldnt anyone plan to win like that? even just taking all of their money and property would be authoritarianism.

[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AP news wrote a lot of words when they could've just said Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin.

Edit: Also, I'm overflowing with tankie energy right now. galaxy-brain

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

The color of the shirts on the first photo, eh, does check out.

[-] YouKnowIt@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Weird that the call it the First Ukrainian Division when it was called "SS Schuetzen Division "Galizien" when this old Nazi bitch joined up. For a real ass patriot like this fella it's weird he joined this outfit considering "The terms "Ukrainian", "Ukraine", could not be used when addressing the division, stressing the Imperial Austro-Hungarian heritage of the term "Galizien"."

Also found out that this evil cocksucker might've seen fucking Himmler himself when he gave his division a speech.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

This is not even about supporting Ukraine anymore. It's just glorification of Nazis.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Being a leftist and knowing the actual history seems like some kinda clown-car damnation from time to time. This is one of those times.

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[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Always important to point out that more Ukrainian fought in the Red Army in WW2 than with the Nazi collaborators. Just to piss off the "national liberation" crowd.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Like, an entire additional digit more

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Zelensky's fucking grandpa fought for the Soviets

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

First time I've ever been humiliated to be a Canadian. Thanks Parliament.

Then you don't know shit about canadian history lmao

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yea I saw in an article an ss tattoo got you into Canada after the war because it meant you were sufficiently anti communist.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

There is a difference between shame and humiliation. Felt shame plenty but this is the first time there is embarrassment.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Legit, if I found out my child’s school in a “progressive country” made students march around honoring nazis, I would tell my kid to become a bully

[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Formed in 1943, it was largely destroyed in the battle of Brody

Completely unsurprising lmfao. The majority of SS volunteer formations absolutely sucked in combat, exceptions being for example "Nordland" but their actions were completely reckless and suicidal, achieving nothing in return. "Galizien" was among the terrible ones, units like these were good in nothing else than "anti partisan activities", and that often means pure war crimes -- hanging suspected partisans, surrendered partisans or general combat with irregular units, where the Germans conducted their war with no rules whatsoever. But when the time to face the actual Red Army came, these units were almost always utterly swept aside by the Soviets. After a good few days of intense beatings, their remnants would pull back and reorganize far from the front, where they resumed "anti partisan activities". "Galizien" took part in supressing the Slovak National Uprising, which they did by massacring civilians.

Also being volunteer formations make every single soldier absolutely guilty of every terrible action their units did, if some soldiers were forced into service there might be an argument, but there isn't, because each one of these fucks knew what they were doing. I am glad the Red Army brought ultimate justice to these pieces of shit, althrough this one might have slipped away.

And he slipped away to Canada like a fucking rat. And years later, Canada would give this fuck a standing ovation. Canada. Ask Canadian WW2 vets what they thought of the SS, ask any of their Normandy vets what they would do to any prisoner belonging to the "SS Hitlerjugend" division, this unit has a very particular history with Canadians. The SS commited numerous war crimes against Canadian troops in WW2, and these motherfuckers are now giving them standing ovations? Man fuck the west, fuck every bit of this worthless concept. Fuck all liberals, motherfuckers are an insult even to their own history.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

that often means pure war crimes

It 100% meant pure war crimes. It's not like they had any competence for actual police work or any discipline for actual garrison duty or anything else valuable.

[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

These are photos of SS Galicia Division veteran who was given standing ovation by Canadian parliament, prime-minister of Canada and president of Ukraine. He published these photos of himself in this division during training in Germany.

He wrote that he volunteered to join SS Galicia Division in 1943 in Ternopil region in Western Ukraine

https://twitter.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1705739708683128836

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Ironically less nazi imagery in photos of the original nazis than I see in photos of ukrainian troops in 2023.

Really makes you think thinking-about-it

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Well they just considered it the natural state of things, whereas current Nazis need to assert themselves loudly because they think they don't have any power. Of course, they are wrong, they have lots of power in the Western world, but it is mostly stealthy and surrounded by liberal civility.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Like a rogue section of frontal lobe that doesn't recognize it's own limbs

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

all nazis born after 1990 know is buy sonnerad pins on etsy, get arty striked after livestreaming yourself seig heiling on telegram, eat hot chip, and lie

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

not even one of the contemporary kkklown divisions that litter ukkkraine, but one of the OG nazis. not surprised tbh

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