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When nonviolence will result in more suffering

When nazis

when it's the last resort to self defense. at that point, it's not only the only viable solution, but the morally obligated one.

"When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable"

-US President John F. Kennedy

When you're being attacked and can't escape or someone else is who can't defend themselves.

It's quite often a viable solution. It's rarely an ethical one.

morally and ethically, it is viable when failing to be violent results in harm to you and yours.

From an amoral and pragmatic perspective, when it gets you what you want or need, and the benefit exceeds the negative consequences.

When people who won't listen to reason are using violence to silence or exterminate others, violence should be used to eliminate them instead.

When all peaceful and passive options have been completely exhausted. Sometimes when words fall under deaf ears, it becomes harder to ignore a nice slap upside the head.

When it's the only solution

Viable almost all the time. It's rarely ethical and usually not very effective so it should not be your first resort, and probably not second either.

When justice fade away

As a response to violence or a legitimate threat of future violence. Someone running away indicates they are not a threat of future violence unless they are giving obvious signs or verbalizing that they intend further violence.

Being a nazi or other hate group that actively promotes initiating violence counts as a legitimate threat of future violence even if they wrap it up in false propaganda that implies they are in danger. Groups that plan on responding to violence with violence as a defensive measure do not.