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Shut it down! The US is better off with no government than with the one it has | Judith Levine
(www.theguardian.com)
This traitor isn’t coming to save us. 
this post was submitted on 30 Jan 2026
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- Shut down the US government.
- Each state puts forth a new constitution elevating themselves to country status.
- Form a new North American Union (like the EU) with Canada as Daddy
- ???
- Profit
2 would mostly only happen in red states. The rest mostly know how to cooperate.
And you know that California doesn't need Canada, even less when you consider the rest of the US west coast in with it.
Some states have proven that, without federal intervention, they cannot effectively govern themselves. Texas, for instance…
Texas would last long enough to be dangerous to it's neighbors. I would not want to be in New Mexico if federal power breaks down.
Probably better to form an analogy to the old European Coal and Steel Community rather than to jump directly into an EU equivalent, also bring Mexico in since without the US being a thing they'll end up with the largest population on the continent.
I'm not smart politics, but I figured it'd be more complicated than a meme outline.
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Canada doesn't want to babysit you guys. Seriously, every time a yankee doodle dipshit proposes Canada to take over some US states, it just sounds like immature fuckups who don't want to take responsibility for yourself and move out of your parent's basement.
You make some good points. Whats it going to take to close this deal though? I feel like you guys have a whole lot of negotiating power here.
Lmao 🤣
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Each state puts forth a new constitution elevating themselves to country status.
I hope my state can successfully wage war against every state to the south of it.
My state is completely surrounded by enemies.
Isnt that like kicking meth addicted people over? seems cruel?
While my theory is based on various sci-fi so should be taken with a mine of salt, my guess is that USA will split into three different countries: NUSA (lol Cyberpunk) which will comprise of the original 13 colony states and the upper North East, The California Republic which will essentially be the West and NW and in good relations with NUSA but with different legislature, and the South which might be called anything from Texas, New Texas, Republic of Texas, or New Louisiana Territory, which will essentially be a war-torn area full of religious extremists not unlike Middle-Eastern areas after the West had their way with them. It will be full of forever wars by religious factions funded by the MIC shareholders of various other countries but in the public face it'll be covered by the media as religious extremism and/or patriotic fanaticism while ignoring the material reality and history of the situation.
The south could bring slavery and cousin/sister shagging back like they have always wanted. I say let them have their theocracy. We build a wall around the enture south and make it into a reality tv show for the world. and, profit.
When season 45 ends we can then just give whatever rubble is left to cuba to figure out.
That's just the plot from escape from new York.
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And Mexico as Madre?
Claudia Sheinbaum is pretty cute. I'm in.
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If you don't feel like your representatives are adequately representing you (God knows I don't), this is a good time to find a primary candidate to support (monetarily or with your time) - or even file to run yourself. Every house representative is up for reelection in November.
too late, the dems caved.
HFC - High-Frequency Caving
Shut it the fuck down until the weasels in the GOP actually have their arm twisted to engage with empathy. I'd be personally affected by a shutdown, but it's a sacrifice I'd make for a long time if it means any kind of progress against the fucking fascist pedophile protectors in office.
The Democrats faux concerned the air traffic controllers not working and not being paid, to kowtow to the Republicans in the last shutdown. The Dems had its members "break rank" who happened to be politicians, whose election won't be coming soon or are retiring. The Democrats will pull the same manipulative tactics. They won't be in this game for so long if they are not that devious.
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Didn't Schumer already cave? Or did I misread a headline?
IIRC, he's starting negotiations in the middle and is eager to give up even more.
Man, I wish Democrats were the heartless, scheming, cut-throat, socialist maniacs that I was told they were growing up in a Republican household...
The country would be in much better shape if it were true...
Here's the thing, they are, possibly even better than republicans, they're taking the same corporate pro israel bribe money, they just didn't also align themselves with the insane neo Nazis, Christian terrorists, and loudmouth idiots.
You forgot the part where I said "socialist." I don't want them to be heartless and scheming if they're not doing it for socialist reforms.
You are correct, I did in fact miss that. Shouldn't be trying to be thoughtful while I'm in bed trying to sleep 😅
And hell yeah, the only reform is socialist reform. It's unfortunate that the party is almost all corpo Dems, definitely needs more push from the left
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No taxation without representation. We know Trump/ Elon / Putin hacked the election. This is NOT the will of the American people. Cut them off of our tax dollars. They want small government so bad, see what they can do without revenue from blue cities/ states.
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Everywhere could be better off without a government, not just the US.
No, we don't live in fantasy land. That could only work on a very small scale and even then, there are political leaders.
My pet rock can run things better than Trump is doing.
Propaganda from “liberal” media trying to calm you down. Fight.
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