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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

We are less than one year away from Election Day and although there has been no new evidence or litigation regarding election fraud in the 2020 election, many people continue to believe that the 2020 election was flawed. In the summer, a poll by the Associated Press showed that 22% of Republicans and 71% of Democrats have high confidence in votes being counted accurately in 2024. A more recent Washington Post poll found that among New Hampshire Republicans, over 50% believe Biden’s win was fraudulent, including 85% of Trump supporters.

Chief among those who continue to believe that the 2020 election was fraudulent is the former president, Donald Trump, who can’t seem to stop talking about it. In one post, he goes after the Republican Party for not doing enough — “… the RNC, and Ronna McDaniel, must spend their time working on this, instead of meaningless Debates where I am up by more than 50 points.”

So, where’s the fraud?

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[-] iamericandre@lemmy.world 67 points 11 months ago

When it does show fraud it’s a Republican who has been caught committing it.

[-] cerevant@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

That’s why they believe there was fraud - they have first-hand knowledge.

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago

What gets me is that there WAS fraud… Trump has a criminal court case in Georgia to prove it! He’s just pissy because he couldn’t commit MORE fraud

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 11 months ago

"There were no victims, your honor! Kemp didn't even do what we asked!"

[-] crypticthree@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

I'm almost starting to think these Republicans are arguing in bad faith

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

No, no, no, it's the Democrats arguing in bad faith, insisting that the burden of proof is on Republicans to prove their claim.

[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 25 points 11 months ago

They've only been claiming election fraud for decades, and spent millions (maybe billions, by now) in taxpayer dollars trying to find any kind of significant fraud that wasn't from Republicans. They've never once found the smoking gun they promised, which includes Trump's failed special commission while he was in office.

But they're never going to stop pushing that narrative, because they are literally trying to destroy democracy. They want a dictatorship where elections are meaningless and they retain power no matter what. It's been their goal for a long time, and they've stopped pretending otherwise.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

About the only voter fraud that's been found has been Republicans voting multiple times. And even that wasn't at levels high enough to influence the results of the elections.

And definitely no evidence of election fraud. Stuff like their claims that companies that make voting machines remotely flipped votes to Biden. There's zero evidence for this and lots of evidence against it, but they still repeat these claims because they don't like the alternative: they lost the election.

[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 6 points 11 months ago

They haven't legitimately won an election in decades. Every single candidate they ran for President lost the popular vote, and the ones that gained office anyway did so because they're gaming the system. They refuse to change their policies to gain votes fairly; they'd rather impose their policies regardless of the will of voters.

Democracy hasn't failed. They've simply abandoned democracy, and they're no longer trying to hide it.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

As long as media keeps parroting the republican talking points, it doesn’t matter if there’s any evidence supporting it or not.

Just like “£350 million per week for NHS” bullshit UK republicans were lying about during Brexit vote. Media kept parroting that narrative ad nauseam, and we know the rest of the story already.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Holy shit I love your music!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago
[-] orclev@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

In other shocking news water is wet.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Brace for the "actually, water makes others things wet" pedants.. 🤦

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

Does water make itself wet? 🤔

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Am water, can confirm.

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

In other news: Republicans Lie.

[-] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Feels more like olds than news.

[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Every Republican accusation is a confession. So far it's Republicans who have been caught for voter fraud.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

So there WAS fraud, see trump was right! Haha check make atheists!

[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago
[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

So…. Basically what we already knew- the entire time?

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It only took them 4 years to come to this conclusion? Color me impressed!

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Evidence was considered Socialist Propaganda years ago my guy.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

No shit? Well. Huh.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 11 months ago

"meaningless debates" he accidentally the truth.

those debates are little more than commercial events. they are not challenged, before, during or after as to any details that matter. its scripted and useless.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

Yeah, thanks for catching up to the rest of us.

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