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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 143 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The market being completely oversaturated doesn't seem like a golden age to me

[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 44 points 3 weeks ago

Seems more like age of slop no one sees or plays.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've heard of a similar ‘golden age’ of 1983.

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

If you read the article, the percentage that reached that threshold rose.

[–] SpicyTaint@lemmy.world 92 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

90% of them are hentai AI slop garbage.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I saw one game that was a 5 minute black screen with someone talking teenage-level philosophy. There was a handful of clicks to make in the whole playthrough.

Steam has a lot of low-quality games. The volume of stuff shipped with Synty Studios assets from Humble Bundles is crazy.

Indie games are doing great. Shovelware is doing meh as it always should be.

[–] Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

The sad thing is that on some level indie games do get pushed out by shovelware on a certain level.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Number of games released was never really a good metric. Review count is probably a bit better, but people buy games released before the current year too.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

Right? This just reminds me of how platforms were flooded with clones of clones of clones when mobile games started becoming a thing back in the 2010s.

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More likely "Simulator"s and AI-gen retro/2D games. Most are usually just copy and paste of something that was successful but with different skin/title/theme.

The proof is in the tags and search filters using Steam.

Although Hentai may appear at the top of New Releases it's because those trend with higher sales.

Visual Novels are probably in a close 2nd and most of those are now AI-gen now so the pump is flowing fast.

[–] SpicyTaint@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I keep seeing that AI simulator shit, too. It's really irritating. Especially since streamers play the games and the content keeps spreading.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The hentai ai slop seems to make the front page, so it seems to be doing fine.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] trd@feddit.nu 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Your avatar reminds me i need to play neverwinter nights again when i get ny steam deck.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Deekin agrees!

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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

With all the layoffs of tech workers, theyve been pouring into more creative outlets like game dev.

I bought a bunch of games in the last year that are pretty niche and fantastic, but also under 1000+ reviews.

What's a good Lemmy community to share them to people who will appreciate it?

Maybe something like patient gamers but for indie games?

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 10 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly something like that I'd personally like a monthly roundup in the regular gaming communities. No need for a separate one imo.

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[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Did you know? Reading the article explains the headline, I recommend doing so... well, to be honest, I recommend reading the report the article is based on.

He says "Indie golden age" since the number of games with 1000 reviews or more made a big jump from 337 in 2022. This is also an increase percentage-wise despite the huge increase in games overall:
This is all games, the article focuses on the indie portion (as decided by the writer, not steam tag) later on.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The problem is a lot of the games will be shovelware that no one in there right mind is interested in playing. It would be nice if we could filter out to only serious attempts. Because that's the metric that's more relevant. Of all of the games released by developers that were really trying to release a game, and not just an asset flip, how many of those games succeeded.

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Like filtering out games with 1000 reviews by the end of the year? Like he says in the article?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago

No that's just filtering out successful games from the unsuccessful ones.

I want to filter out the shovelware from the data set so we actually know what the ratio of successful to unsuccessful ones are. Since it's not useful for me to know that shovelware isn't successful.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

People stress out about having too big of a backlog, who cares? Support artists, buy indie games!

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Hate to ask, but as an Indie dev, I'd love some support:

We made a cartoon network inspired RPG (am ex Cartoon Network dev). It's called:

Ink Inside

It gets lost in Steam discovery constantly as it's combat is too unique to classify as more than "action RPG."

Several 9/10 review scores. Brian David Gilbert as a lead VA, with 11 others

42 reviews on Steam.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly, announce it on a gaming community here that allows promotion. And put it on GoG too. Some of use are trying to reduce our use of US tech or reduce use of monopolies.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Working on that actually! Specifically GoG and more outreach on Lemmy. And thanks for the advice! 🙂

We're probably going to be deleting our Tiktok soon to likewise reduce use of US tech. Which really sucks because it's the only place we have any traction atm.

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[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Looks cool. I wishlisted it and will try the demo when I get a chance. How's it run on the steamdeck?

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you! 🙂 Works great on Steam deck actually! 🙂 Just need to adjust the auto aim a bit in the options to get the best results.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I dig it. Wishlisted.

I have a rare disease where I can only buy Steam games that are on sale, but the next time that happens I’m all over it.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Haha, thanks man! Completely understand. Keep us in mind around March 5th for related reasons 😉

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, co-op RPG? Split-Screen Co-op?

I'll buy it!

I mean, I'll need to find a friend but I'll think about that later.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yep! Co-op OR single player. Player 2 has an AI that scales as you level, so it's still very fun as a solo experience 🙂

And it's a shared screen, kinda like a 2 player beat em up.

And co-op works over Steam remote play. Only 1 copy of the game needed!

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Looks kinda cool, wishlisted for later.

Btw, a new Fediverse instance was recently setup for Indie Games https://indie-ver.se/ Why not try creating a community there, or if it's a bit too small see if the creators of the instance can make a "this is my indie game" type of community for self promotions.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

We don't hear that in any other industry.

"My word. There's too much cake in this cake factory! And there's too much music out there! Oh no, MORE comic books?!"

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's how I feel about anime.

Can't even watch everything.

😭

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago

I've said this about books, specifically since self-publishing and print-on-demand have saturated the market with garbage.

I say garbage and not slop because this was before AI even became a thing. I can't imagine how bad it is now, but fortunately I've broken my habit of hoarding books so it's not really something I notice anymore.

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[–] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, I only have so much money free to spend on hobbies. I will gladly support indie devs when I want a new game, but I'm not in a position to just be buying them for the sake of buying them

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago

Could be that or it could be AI slop games.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah... It's not indie golden age.

I guarantee you less than 1,000 of those were made by actual indie developers.

I'd more than willingly bet the rest are vibe-coded slop or unity asset-flips designed to look just enough like an actual game that you buy it and hopefully never bother to refund it.

Steam has had this problem for years, and AI slop has only exacerbated it.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

On one hand, Silksong, BallxPit, Peak, Expedition 33, Dispatch, Blue Prince, Morsels, Rift of the Necrodancer....

On the other hand, ~20,000 games that don't have anyone playing them.

[–] Dupelet@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think the author knows what a golden age is

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you read the article or the report it is based on? I think he makes his point quite clear.

[–] Dupelet@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

Fair enough. Let me change that up. I don't think the editor who wrote the clickbait headline knows what a golden age is.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I miss greenlight. We should go back to that. I'm already tired of the endless amounts of crap being put on Steam.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's a good thing for a marketplace to have many options. As long as steam keeps discovery working well then its totally fine. Lots of people throw up their first game (from a game tutorial) onto steam as a learning experience, they aren't expecting to make any money. Posting your highschool programming project on steam feels cool.

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