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[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Before you say haha no one is using bing... Your beloved DuckDuckGo uses bing results and this means it's censored there too. And it's not only about the start page https://neocities.org/ (which can be found with DuckDuckGo via Wikipedia Snippet). None of the hosted sites are in the index.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well is that true? I searched duckduckgo and kagi something and neocities and both gave results. Bing did not.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I chose a random neocities website and searched with both DDG and Google. The search was "irony machine neocities" without quotes. Google yielded a result which pointed to the correct URL https://irony-machine.neocities.org/ while DDG did not.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

irony machine neocities

My first duckduckgo result was a scam result site for that domain to check if it was safe, lol.

Second result was the creators website page that linked back to neocities.

The duckduck AI result at the top however was a direct link to the neocities page. Interesting.

Kagi's results were first result was the link.

I concede though, it is hit and miss with Duckduckgo, even doing site:neocities.org

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dick Duck Go gets its search results from Bing.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 2 months ago

I just opened neocities.org with it, but nothing specific.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 3 points 2 months ago

IIRC that's just one of the backends they use for their results

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 23 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I can't even convince my spouse to switch to firefox to get adblocking back. Browsers are entirely transparent to most users :\

[–] otterpop@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

If you're savvy, look at blocking them at the dns level with software like pihole or blocky.

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[–] hornedfiend@piefed.social 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

For normies Chrome IS the internet.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

"Normies" don't use PCs anymore. Whatever apps the phone vendor preinstalled, Web or other, is the internet.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You’re probably too young to remember that in an old version of windows, Internet Explorer’s desktop icon was labeled “The Internet”. Nowadays, people think Google is “the internet”. My boomer dad says he “has Gemini”… bruh, you’re just searching shit on Google.

[–] hornedfiend@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

Well, I'm 44 so I do remember those days, but I used to be a Netscape user, so there's that.

[–] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This also applies to the results on Duckduckgo so I assume this affects a lot of people here.

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[–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Over 1.5 million Neocities websites; Geocities, however, is dead.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 28 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't want unmoderated* information and opinions appearing in Microslop search results now would you?

*unmoderated by Big Tech Fascist AI Filters

[–] hector@lemmy.today 22 points 2 months ago
[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 months ago

Bing/DDG has also blocked the emulation wiki (https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/) for some reason. I noticed when I forgot the domain and tried looking for the site.

For the record, Google returns it as the top result.

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 12 points 2 months ago

Man, who could hate Neocities? There’s so many gorgeous “retro” websites on there. Brings me back to my childhood.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Money bags over here is laughing at us

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The price of one coffee a month. Bling bling, mothafuckas!

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Kagi is $10 a month for the decent (now weirdly limited) plan. That's a hell of an expensive coffee.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just giving you shit, though I have always hated the "cup of coffee" comparison as I think people buying those expensive coffees out all the time are being foolish. Coffee at home is much better and much cheaper IMO.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’m with you, I make it at home and it’s much better and I don’t waste hundreds of dollars a month on it like a lot of people do. What’s a better $5 comparison, a smoothie? Nah, that’s also better at home. How about a scoop of ice cream.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

I honestly don't know! With the rapid inflation and price gouging, I feel like I'm a character on Arrested Development trying to guess prices of common items.

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

5 dollars buys me a week of coffee.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

laughs I at least my search results aren't tied to a credit card holder which identifies me

[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does kagi do its own indexing?

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Some, especially for “small web” sites.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 7 points 2 months ago

So, going by the blog post, the entire domain got sanctioned due to a few (proportionally speaking) malicious domains?

If so, wtf 💩

Also, for things like this, I'd suggest linking to sites one uses (Neocities or otherwise) between one's friends and followers so discovery of sites flow through the chain of trust. Not as fast discoverable, but avoids algorhithm decisions like this, or shadow ban, or ill-intended sites paying to appear higher, or so on.

[–] ptmb@piefed.zip 6 points 2 months ago

I was hoping qwant, with its own (partial) search index, would be immune to it, but searching for neocities also doesn't show any results for neocities.org there unfortunately, or at least it did not for me.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

will ig am switching off DDG

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Startpage seems nice. Uses sanitized results from Google and while it does have an AI feature, it's opt-in (not out) and looks to also be sanitized.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I want to (try) relying less on Google And Microsoft so I decided to try mojeek.

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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

While I think it's shitty that they did this, part of me also kind of likes it. The most resilient form of web behavior includes bookmarking sites and discovering new sites by them linking to each other, and also via conversation with others online, rather than getting all your sites from a search engine. I get that search engines are useful for lots of things. But maybe this will help kick people's search engine addiction if they realize there's lots of good stuff out there that you can't trust a search engine to surface.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We need a "Fedi-Search engine"

[–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

searxng.org

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[–] neblem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Looks like its showing in the DDG results for me this evening.

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