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[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 8 points 56 minutes ago

I love being told to work more by people that don't work at all i mean private jets all over the world, private chauffeur to wherever they need, a nice retirement and all the while getting paid probably 10 times more than me that will most likely die of hunger in a cold shitty house with no power after working constantly for the next 30-40 years...

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 15 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I'm technically one of these "lifestyle" part-timers, at 35 instead of 40 hours a week. This reduction has had a noticeable impact on my mental health, to the point where I'd dare say my productivity hasn't changed one bit.

But let's be real: I cannot imagine that even Blackrockfritze believes that economic growth is determined by having longer working hours. This is a deliberate attempt to create another group of "lazy people" to lay the blame for the utter incompetence of his government.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 35 minutes ago

I think working time is the wrong place for politicians to regulate.

Sure, there's a huge imbalance. Some people work a lot and some very little.

The key is that the the people who do work more than mandatory minimum hours, are also the people who enjoy working. Self employed or not, doesn't matter. If people like working, they'll work more. It's really that simple.

Politicians ought to focus on regulation of how enjoyable work is. Then the working time would increase by itself, if that's the ultimate goal for whatever reason.

I don't think it is though. Productivity ought to be the end goal.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

„If we whip them harder surely they will generate more profit for us masters!“

Kind reminder the Christ Democrats always hated human beings.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 1 points 2 minutes ago

Not always.

Das kapitalistische Wirtschaftssystem ist den staatlichen und sozialen Lebensinteressen des deutschen Volkes nicht gerecht geworden.

Inhalt und Ziel dieser sozialen und wirtschaftlichen Neuordnung kann nicht mehr das kapitalistische Gewinn- und Machtstreben, sondern nur das Wohlergehen unseres Volkes sein.

CDU, 1947.

But yeah, that was some time ago.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Not always but defenetly all parties in germany and global politics got wacky in the 80s and said " SCREW THE STATE TO SERVE PEOPLE! SCREW THE PEOPLE! IT SHOULD SERVE ME!"

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 60 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Under pressure to make changes to boost sluggish economic growth, the conservative has told voters their country’s prosperity will not be maintained “with a four-day week and work-life balance”. He recently effectively accused them of skiving by falsely calling in sick, criticising the relative ease with which sicknotes could be obtained from GPs over the phone.

Someone does not understand what productivity means and how it's meaningfully improved.

If you (you being the proverbial CDU brain here) need people to marginally increase their working hours, in order to achieve higher economic output, you're in deep trouble. The increased output is also marginal and a one time boost. If you want meaningfully higher economic output, with sustained growth, you have to use machines and automation to achieve more with the same work hours. In other words you gotta do productive capital investment. Unfortunately conservative brains can only think of the cheapest solution for businesses first, at the expense of workers quality and quantity of life.

[–] nuscheltier@feddit.org 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Even that is just a one time boost. If the automation is done there is nothing to be done better. So to grow further people have to be fired or other sources of revenue have to be unlocked.
I still think, sustained growth is impossible in the long run.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I still think, sustained growth is impossible in the long run.

Oh yeah, for sure. All production consumes natural resources at some point in the chain, even services. And natural resources are finite. Even if we recycle everything, we'd still have a finite amount we have to work with beyond which we can't expand. If the driving force behind the production expansion is primarily profit growth, then there's no satisfying that. That's an inherent problem with the capitalist system. If however the driving force is the need for making something that doesn't exist - e.g. more tanks, more wind turbines, more scientific researchers, more musicians, then automation can help a lot. But even for purely profit-driven growth, automation would provide a lot more runway than making people work more hours. I know you're not disagreeing, I'm just saying this for completeness. :D

[–] nuscheltier@feddit.org 2 points 37 minutes ago

I have to thank you for pointing out, that you wanted to say that automation would help more than let people work more. That is a fact that I lost sight of. :)

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the agenda of the Blackrock fanboy turbo capitalist minion.

Destroy social security nets to make people so desperate they will take any job at any conditions.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It‘s kind of insane yet not surprising how he or most of that anti civilization party sees how this will erode the domestic consumer market and hurt the economy long term. People will have less money to buy things. Less money will circulate and that will worsen things for everyone. The overly rich forgot they have the most to lose here.

[–] kvasir476@lemmy.world 45 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like some "work will set you free" type shit

[–] BallyM@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago

Leaking this proposal to the media on the day when Auschwitz was liberated is a bit on the nose.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 36 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

wtf, why would you need a permission to work however long, wait a minute

the conservative has told voters their country’s prosperity will not be maintained “with a four-day week and work-life balance”. He recently effectively accused them of skiving

he was bitten by american ceo wasn't he? 🙃

[–] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 25 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Merz was working for BlackRock for quite a while

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago

Specifically he was on their board and afaik only for his contacts to other politicians and public officials.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

he was bitten by american ceo wasn’t he? 🙃

It's a ~~global~~ pandemic.

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Merz seems to genuinely believe no one works except for him. Yeah, right.

[–] llamatron@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

It's always the fault of the workers and not the leeches at the top taking every gain for themselves.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 hours ago

Dammit people being able to work less is progress.

[–] kommmaklar@feddit.org 22 points 4 hours ago

Fun fact about Germany: There is no fun, get back to Work!

[–] nocteb@feddit.org 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

He has 22% approval in current polls I wonder how it is so high.

[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

I guess mostly bitter people who don’t want other people to live comfortable

[–] linule@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

In principle not incorrect, Europe has rough times ahead and a lot to do to catch up in defense and digital infrastructure, among others.

That said, it should be carefully investigated what leads to actual productivity increase. Just more hours may or may not do that. And compensation should increase accordingly.

[–] unnamed1@feddit.org 6 points 3 hours ago

He does not even für one second consider utilising technology for efficiency and growth. There is so much potential in not sending people to work. Yes, even AI can automate processes very well if done right. At some point countries will send machines to war and Merz will still send meat to the grinder.

Makes me want to grab and shake this old man in hopes there is still some problem solving capacity left in his >70 year old brain.