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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago

comic book villain type thugs

[–] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm trying to think of what to do to combat all this since our government seems to be run by the uberrich and Christians now. I think that the civilians of the United States would be unmatched against how much raw firepower our military and ICE has. States would probably need to slowly start joining more and more international organizations until they had enough allies strong enough to defend us from our own federal government. Maybe states would invite foreign military bases onto their land so that their allied nations would have more of a reason to protect them

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

raw firepower our military and ICE has

Historically speaking, all of the US Military might has been beaten by $35 IEDs and bamboo traps.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 3 hours ago

Maybe states would invite foreign military bases onto their land so that their allied nations would have more of a reason to protect them

That would basically mean a civil war which is definitely on the table but I don't think it would end with free USA as much as USA split into many independent regions, some less and some more shitty then the current one.

The other way would be to find some compromise with corporations and setup Network States Peter Thiel is promoting. The compromise would be that you give them all the power and in exchange you would live in techno-fascists states run by corporations instead of actual fascists state run by fascist politicians.

I wouldn't count on Democrats. Even if they win they will just sit on their hands for couple of years waiting for Republicans to win again.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Conservatives, about 5 minutes before Donvict took office: "People can come here, they just need to come here legally, just like everyone else. We cannot have open borders! Also, I just want the criminal illegals out!"

Conservatives, about 5 minutes after Donvict took office: "Get all the brown people out, I don't care if they are going through normal channels. Fuck 'em. Also, remember how I pretended to care about "babies" when I was talking about fetuses? Yeah, I don't give a fuck about kids, either, especially if they ain't white."

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Donny made the Nazis no longer afraid

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

7 Ds just joining the gop house to give ice another 10bn in thier budget, plust more to the DEFENSE budget.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago

Yep they know to only have the bare minimum sign on so that they can get these bills passed like they want, while still claiming they oppose this stuff as a party. Its just like how professional wrestlers know the outcome of the match beforehand and play their individual parts to give the crowd a good show.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 100 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

The facility, which is run by ICE and private prison profiteer CoreCivic, is accused of providing inadequate medical care for children, as well as poor sanitary and health conditions. Detainees also report being served moldy or worm-infested food.

My fellow Americans, don't you just want to go ape shit? Its more than time to forcibly open these places and release the hostages. Maybe kick CoreCivic employees and executives in the dick while we're at it.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 64 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Do we want to? Yes, I think we all do. However, we also don't want to die, and assaulting federal buildings is how you die. Unless you're Maga assaulting the US capital building, of course. Then you get presidential pardons. But if we do it, ICE will shoot us, there's no doubt in my mind.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are already dying, families at that. We know what happens when we have more numbers and we use them. Why we continue to allow this to happen is beyond me. Yet all I can get organized is the same 5 people to take action.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

‘Why we continue to allow this to happen is beyond me”

“I can only get 5 people organized”

I might have found part of the reason.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You are not wrong. Everyone is scared. Idk where all the guns went that are supposedly in this country.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There will be 100x more people dying if it continues.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (15 children)

Individually attacking ice agents or facilities won't stop this either though.

Like I don't know what I can do to stop it. It's outside of my power individually.

Edit: I feel like this came off as a bit disempowering. There are many important things we can be doing to throw sand in the gears of fascism, and while it may or may not stop it, it will still probably save lives. But I just want to express that going to individual Americans and shaming them because they haven't personally put a stop to this is very unhelpful.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Organization at this point is important. Find common minded people, make defensive pacts. Keep eyes and ears out for each other. Purchase firearms and train with them along with proper permits and such. Grow your group.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, I agree. Unfortunately the response in my city is not as well organized as I would like but I'm trying my best to be as involved as I can. A friend and I are also gathering a group of activated neighbors and planning to have regular meals together to discuss what else we can do.

So those are some ideas for folks looking for actions they can take. Look up what org is doing legal observing in your area and sign up. And the usual stuff like show up for protests, etc.

And honestly this scares me and I have a strong commitment to nonviolence but we may be at a point where we need to start training and organizing militias too. But I would be careful and very selective in this because there is a risk it could make the situation worse if people do not move carefully and strategically. I disagree with a lot of lemmings that armed conflict is a good solution to most problems but there may come a point where we fight back or we die and we need to be ready for that possibility. I don't think that day is today but it looks closer every day that passes.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Good on ya. You're having better luck than I did unfortunately. I couldn't even get my local friends interested in it. So I just offer advice online to folks, talk about the best thing they can do right now, and recommend reading up on the various resistance groups during WWII.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah I have the same issue with much of my friend group. They just want to look away and focus on their lives. Sometimes you have to make new friends who are willing to do something. I find it hard but I just try to bring it up when I can and collect those folks who do express interest in doing something.

And you never know. I saw a former coworker last night at our ICE facility that I would have clocked as totally apolitical. Sometimes people are afraid to say how they really feel because it doesn't feel socially acceptable. And more and more people are starting to wake up to this.

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Individual is the key word here — Americans are incapable of escaping the individuality. Collective action is seen internally as an impossibility.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mate, if you know how to organize a hundred million people from an area as large as the US, I'm all ears. I sure don't. I don't know if anyone does. We have small groups doing what they can, but it's not enough. I agree with you, we need collective action, but I'm at a loss for how to effect that.

I also understand the general frustration, both from inside the US and out, but these thinly veiled suggestions that we should go attack ICE agents or start rioting or whatever else that keep getting thrown around on Lemmy and elsewhere are not helpful, either. Yes, we're all frustrated, but taking brash, drastic action without the organization behind it will not solve anything.

I don't know if it's more frustrating when it comes from folks inside the US or out. If someone is inside the US and calling for frankly suicidal acts, and yet are not performing those acts themself, they're hypocrites, plain and simple. If someone is outside the US and calling for those acts... all I can say is, you aren't helping at all, and if you aren't willing to help organize or give us some ideas on how to organize, kindly keep those opinions to yourselves.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I understand but I'm only in control of my own actions. I can't make the rest of America do anything they don't want to. So if you want me to do something it needs to be framed in terms of what actions I can take--even if those actions are meant to be part of a collective effort.

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Yes, it was not intended as an allegation, just an observation!

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

People should be afraid to work for ICE.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 22 hours ago

Maybe so but that's not easy to achieve. I think social stigma, public humiliation, etc. is the easiest way to achieve this. Definitely support investigators who are compiling information on them.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Get out to a local protest with the intention of making contact with political organizers.

You can't do anything on your own, find a local group that is making plans and help with that.

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes the threat of not doing something is worse than it is of doing something.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 3 points 18 hours ago

I am not proposing doing nothing; I am proposing ignoring and also calling out people who are making frankly bad suggestions, like joining a disorganized riot against a federal building staffed by murderers.

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[–] inkzombie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Cis people don't want to be inconvenienced. They tell themselves that it'll get worse if they fight back. Well it's getting worse anyway. They're waiting for someone else to do something.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 14 hours ago

no actually its worst than that, they think nothing is going to happen too bad, and someone is going to stop at some point, because it hasnt reach thier home yet.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago

too passive made by propaganda, thats why there isnt a riot, or an actual country wide strike going on. the last thing the Dnc and gop want is a riots or strikes.

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