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Created as an evolution of White People Twitter and other tweet-capture subreddits.
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Oh yes because who doesn't talk about pay during the in the interview process.
"So umm hows the weather?"
Im sorry $user But we dont discuss things on this ethereal plane during the interviewing process.
They don't like talking about it because every interested candidate becomes uninterested immediately after hearing the pay sucks, the hours suck, and the culture is awful.
You dodged a bullet there.
Like a 950 caliber bullet. Depending on the work, a company like that is going to be just as effective as making someone go splat.
Is that a thing? Anywho... you are correct.
They're freaking gigantic too. They don't make them anymore though.
As a manager I’ll give you their thought process and from a mangers perspective it makes sense (albeit still wrong) and you DEFINITELY wouldn’t say it to the applicant.
Managers want robots that do their job and don’t call them out on their bullshit or question the decisions they make or their salary. That way they don’t have to give raises or address issues. When you ask questions on the interview that lead them to believe you are educated and stand up for yourself they don’t want to introduce you into their work bubble of other robots or it would start a rebellion. Hope this helps.
If this is the kind of worker you want you should probably be pursuing an AI or real robotics to do your job and that of your underlings.
Have you ever managed to get robots? I feel like the managers dream of effective and obedient workers is impossible. It's like the triangle.
You have competence, cheapness, and honesty, pick 2.
Is the workers being done and they are doing so cheaply then you can guarantee they're either stealing from you or would be perfectly happy to take bribes.
If you've got an honest effective workforce then you're going to have to pay for it.
And if you've got a cheap and honest workforce they are absolutely not doing the job correctly (and you're probably hiring consultants from Bangladesh or something)
As a manager, I disagree.
Anyone that isn't asking basic shit about the job is either an idiot or dishonest and I don't want them on my team. Provide honest answers to these questions immediately, ESPECIALLY work culture and responsibilities. Salary may not be appropriate at this specific stage in the interview, but if it's the third round or later, it needs to be discussed.
EDIT: depends what type of team you manage I think...
What job would I ever apply for that I didn't have at least a ballpark for compensation to begin with?
I'm not going to go through the entire interview process only to then find out that they are offering half of what I'm looking for.
Sure I understand the company may not be able to give an exact price because what they're prepared to offer will depend on what the other candidates are looking for and my experience level. But they should at least be able to tell me what the minimum and maximum values are, and they should at least be able to tell me approximately where I lie within that. If I have 10 plus years of experience in the industry then I would expect to be on the high end of that salary band, if you use a manager disagree that's something we're going to have to talk about right now.
Sounds like you had some shitty managers. That’s about as dumb as saying that all people interviewing are lazy people with no work ethics and just want to don nothing and get paid.
Based on this screenshot the candidate dodged a bullet because this particular manager/company sounds terrible.
Sounds like you had some shitty managers.
Or some great robots.
It really depends on the type of job. If you are doing a cog-in-the-machine job like anything in retail, gastronomy or customer support, it's exactly like Pacattack57 described.
I'm a retail manager and I've experienced shitty bosses in previous jobs too, and I don't want my team to feel like a cog in a machine. I make sure my staff can come to me with anything and I'll be transparent with them, because nobody deserves that kind of treatment if you're trying to put in work for someone/somewhere. Turns out if your team are happy and trust you, they can even more productive! Who knew, right? 😅
If a candidate didn't ask any questions at all in an interview, that's more of a red flag to me because it can show they're not even interested.
I'm a manager and I do not think like that at all. I want people with the right skillset who can do their job well without babysitting, and I strive to pay them as much I can with the budget.
It's so fucking hard to find someone who's not a fucking idiot that if I get one I'll do everything I can to make sure they stay.
I also find that people that ask those kinds of questions are genuinely interested in working here. People that don't ask those questions leave within a year.
I've found that bad managers tend to think that they are looking for an ideal candidate. That candidate is mind numbingly obsessed with working for them that they will degrade themselves for the opportunity to work for their company. Like they hear fake stories from CEOs and influencers about how when they were working they worked all day every day and skipped lunch to make sure they were the best employee in the company and believe that if you just interview hard enough you'll find that golden idiot.
As soon as you deviate from that, the manager tells themself "well, this person asked about the work hours and overtime policy, clearly they aren't ready to work 10 hours a day for no extra pay." And anyone they do hire will never be enough.
This is exactly why it should be legally mandated to discuss those things during the interview process.
"How are baby's made?"
It's not us, it's you.
I hate that OP blacked out the company. Name and shame these fucks.
I feel like people block out names way to often now. I they felt comfortable enough to send this email, I'm sure they'd feel comfortable with it being shared with others, right?
Bullet dodged.
I think those are questions you should definitely ask. I'd save them for the end of the interview but definitely ask.
That's fucking bullshit. 20 years ago, those were just basic things to ask when they say "Do you have any questions for us?" And applicants were actively encouraged to do so by jobs coaches.
If they don't want people to negotiate their contracts, they should say "Requirements: willing to be exploited and blindly obedient; push-overs preferred."
It's common practice now. I've been interviewing for over 4 months, and ask these kinds of questions every time (except for the salary). Over a dozen interviews, and not once has there been even a hint of relucrance to respond.
Op dodged a crap company
Agreed. I've been the one giving a lot of interviews. I'm a little concerned when people don't ask these sort of questions and tend to volunteer answers in that case. Any company with this attitude is an absolute joke and a total dumpster fire.
You shouldn't have to ask about the salary because that should have been in the job advertisement. Why would anyone even apply for a job if they don't know what it pays?
Would be nice to name drop these kinds of assholes.
I would love for them to not find a single worker to fill this position and people gradually leaving until it's just a husk with the C-suite having to do everything or the company just disappearing
the c-suite wouldve likely bounced before that happens.
I honestly just assume its fake when they dont name drop. I have no doubt it happens, but its just rage bait without any context.