Politics

Single issue voters and third party candidates because "both sides bad" is what got us into our current predicament.

Don't be a single issue voter for third party candidates because "both sides bad". Feel free to vote that way in the primaries, get out and campaign for the candidate you think is best, but when they don't make it to round 2, don't throw away your vote - that does nothing for US elections.

Also, fuck ICE, but "my opinion gets lots of upvotes on Reddit" is not a basis of government.

Unfortunately, abolition is one of those things that people poo-pah no matter what agency is involved, because we've allowed the Right to successfully frame its changes as "realistic" and "practical", and Democrat changes as "idealism". People will act as though it's completely impossible to not have ICE or DHS... despite the fact they are both younger than most of us.

Every time I see an argument in the comments about whether people not voting Blue (but also not voting Red, obviously) are "handing the election" to the opponents, I feel like the people arguing such haven't re-assessed their understanding of our political landscape since 2016.

The reality is that you cannot cajole thousands or even millions of people into voting the way you want them to. There's no social or technical framework to do it. It's literally an impossibility. You have to entice them.

I understand that the DNC deluded themselves into thinking they could, despite Obama's nomination over the DNC-preferred Hillary in 2008, but we've had 3 election cycles since Obama, and Democrats have lost 2, and severely underperformed in the other, all because of weak candidates who refused to shift their platform towards the votes they were missing. And their strategy was merely to cajole people with "better than Republicans/Trump".

If it worked, I'd hate it but at least I'd respect the utility of it for harm prevention. But it literally doesn't work.

The fact that every discussion of changing the DNC sees the VoteBlueNoMatterWho brigade arrive to deploy this rhetoric clearly shows that they know the DNC won't change, but rather than blame the group whose explicit job is to attract voters with their platform for being intractable to voter demands, they instead rush to ensure this argument is stated and visible.

At this point it's not actually voter engagement or strengthening of the Blue base, it's just preemptively attempting to construct a scapegoat for when the strategy continues not to work.

"Don't you remember all those times when we explicitly told people online they had to vote for us? And then they didn't? So that's their fault, see? Yes, even though we knew what would get their votes, but refused to do anything different."

It’s more than just making a good choice while voting unfortunately, when tax dollars support these types of institutions

the soviets defeated the nazis. not the usians.

i'd bet the us would let nazis fester if they were subtler about it.

nazis were inspired by us segregation laws, and the current us regime was inspired by nazis.

so republican then. unless its fairy land were the third party gets over 30% of the vote and the rest is evenly split. if republicans can hold office it won't work. we have to have republicans lose every time. something is allowing them to win elections consistantly without a majority. it is partly the system but partly people choosing the greater of two evils directly or by staying out of it. republican supporters do not vote third party if their canidate has even a slim chance of winning.