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Fuck ICE, right? (media.piefed.social)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by iloveDigit@piefed.social to c/politics@beehaw.org

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The Ratchet Effect

DEMOCRATS BLOCK MOVEMENT BACK TO THE LEFT / REPUBLICANS TURN EVERYTHING TO THE RIGHT

Many of us are demanding to arrest or at least abolish all of ICE.

You can see posts that say "arrest ICE" or simply "fuck ICE" with very positive reddit vote scores in many cases.

What about arresting ICE in real life?

What if the next Presidential election arrives, and instead of voting Republican or Democrat, I'm going around supporting a candidate who focuses on driving awareness of all the ICE crimes caught on video?

Because when I say "fuck ICE," I don't mean it as shorthand for "fuck Trump." More like shorthand for "fuck all the authorities that abuse their power" or "fuck the military industrial complex " or "fuck the parallels between my country and the Nazi Germany we supposedly defeated."

Or just "fuck having a country where I can be robbed, beaten, or killed by the authorities any day, without consequences."

Parts of this post, placed anywhere with reddit-style votes, might reveal not many Americans are really with me on this.

Forget a President, I wonder if any major city can even elect 1 mayor, that goes 1 day, without making a choice that helps someone in uniform get away with robbing, beating, or killing someone else.

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[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 9 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately, abolition is one of those things that people poo-pah no matter what agency is involved, because we've allowed the Right to successfully frame its changes as "realistic" and "practical", and Democrat changes as "idealism". People will act as though it's completely impossible to not have ICE or DHS... despite the fact they are both younger than most of us.