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[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Actually, what Carney aid was 'Time for the rest of the world to start making the rules, not America.'

This is exactly what I like to hear. The oligarchs that have made a mockery of my country's democracy need to be put in their place. They've been parasites to our nation for far too long.

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So then the rules should no longer protect them either

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ummm... Yeah? That was the point?

Did you read or listen to the speech to know who the "them" in this context is about, though?

It's us. Canada. Medium powers.

Listen to the speech; it's one for the history books. Carney hit the nail on the head.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Yea, but they hold power and we can't pay rent. But let's use our collective anger to left pray things will change

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Carney, and the Liberals and centrists in general, constantly resist real change. He acts more like a conservative than anything, and even very recently tried to screw over the Air Canada attendants when they tried to fight for fair pay. He’s selling off our resources to private companies and laying off government workers during a time where those people will seriously struggle to find new work.

The speech was decent, I guess, but coming from Carney it’s just a bad joke. Like Trudeau kneeling with the BLM protesters, he’s demanding better behaviour from world leaders while being a world leader who can’t behave himself. Pretty, empty words from a weak man.

We should listen and form a new world order, and we should make sure that he doesn’t get to pretend like he was on the right side of history.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Carney is very conservative. He was well liked by Harper and is to the right of Trudeau. We really need actual leftists and not bankers leading the way and I regret voting for him and not voting NDP or to a communist party (even if they had no chance of winning).

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If everyone who voted for the party that aligned with their views I think they’d be pretty surprised at who really had “no chance of winning”. The Liberals didn’t throw voting reform in the garbage for nothing.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I voted for Carney because I dreaded PP. I didn't realize the extent of how much he would be talking out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand acting like it is all over, but on the other hand doing everything he can to appease the US and passing online and 'strong borders' act that effectively destroy privacy online for Canadians AND share or straight up hand that information over to the US authorities just like that.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No one voted for Carney. They all voted against Milhouse. Except Alberta.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

I agree with that.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I’m just amazed that you were surprised. That’s how the Liberals have always been, constantly trying to play it safe except that safe has just meant doing the things that don’t piss off rich corporations or the US too much because they’re afraid of standing up for us.

Ten years ago they ran on voting reform and then, when a committee made up of people from every party said that they needed to ditch FPTP they said it was “too difficult” and then never spoke about it again because that same committee also showed them that they would lose a lot of ground if people got to actually choose what they wanted. Doing that they openly stated that they don’t give a single flying fuck about democracy and we STILL consider them a serious party? Yea, fuck that noise.

[–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

I think that this is likely just how politics is done now. On one hand you have a guy that will keep giving the elites what they want. On the other, you have a complete wackadoo that'll scare the voters into picking the first guy. It's like voting with a gun to your head.

As a bonus, if on the off chance people do end up voting for the wackadoo, well then it's party time. We have plenty of current examples of that.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

We really need actual leftists and not bankers leading the way and I regret voting for him and not voting NDP or to a communist party (even if they had no chance of winning)

Why would you have to worry if they would win or not? Didn't the liberal party get elected with a mandate to pass electoral reform recently? Surely they would keep their promises!

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

never did. unless you were western all this time.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 102 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Thank God Pierre Pollivre wasn't elected or this would be a much different story.

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 1 points 5 days ago

We'd probably invade Greenland ourselves if he did lol.

Thank God he didn't win.

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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It was nice to read the speech. I approve of Carney's message. Here were some lines I found humorous:

Nostalgia is not a strategy
If we’re not at the table, we’re on the menu
We are no longer relying on just the strength of our values but also the value of our strength

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We are no longer relying on just the strength of our values but also the value of our strength

Now it would be a shame if Russia or China would make the same comment, would it not?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

That was one line that stuck out as being cheap and ill-consideted. I get the point he was making but the slogan was too tempting and rang ugly.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I wish he was less of a, you know, investor capitalist, but his take on international relations is a wonder to behold. This speech basically boiled down to his election speeches, calling out the US, and telling the world that the Big Fish are nobody's friend, and that the rest of us need to partner up and stop competing with each other to simp for the Americans.

He basically declared that the American Empire is over, and we're done acting as a vassal state.

Fucking wild. I never thought I'd live to see the day.

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