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Throw it on the pile? I guess?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago

One century of presidential earnings while in office, everything earned - all presidents combined - $40 million USD of getting “rich”.

Trump, one year. 3 billion in personal enrichment. Planes, “donations”, etc.

Corruption laid bare. Everything the reich wing said they hated about Hillary, Bill, Pelosi, Obama making money on the job. Not a peep about this. Not. One. Word.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 154 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Normalizing the lack of consequences will be horrible to manage in the future. Any administration that wants to do any enforcement will have to deal with years of precedent of inaction.

'You want to punish me? Where was your 'righteous indignity' and your 'laws' when trump was in charge?'

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's why I say we have to either split the union and all be separate (free to join into smaller groups), or we just rewrite the constitution and remake the government from the ground up.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We have to do the latter regardless because we've proven the current ones are fundamentally broken and all it took was to act in bad faith. Literally all of this because there's intentionally no system in place to account for bad faith or no confidence.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

That is actually the exact purpose of the second amendment. So that we the people can replace a government that no longer works for the people of the country.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I don't think the second option is viable.

You have whole states loving the pedo unconditionally. And they would need to sign a constitution that specifically bars them to try and summon a new trump.

They simply won't sign it. So you better start thinking as separate states that join to stay relevant and hope the red union that will shortly after form doesn't have imperialist aspirations. Otherwise you'll be in for a second civil war.

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But the economics in the red states would lead to such bad living conditions that people would move, and then the spiral of no money, and no people to fight a war would lead to a very one sided victory.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The economics of the red states will pale in comparison to the question of where the weapons end up. There are a lot of nuclear weapons in deep red areas.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fortunately the chance of those yokels actually figuring out how to use one is pretty much zero. They're complicated.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 3 points 2 days ago

Don't discount the ability of people to follow simple directions and manuals. Also, don't discount that there are a large number of otherwise intelligent people who are maga. They have plenty of people who can do calculus, program in an IDE or on a circuit board, and carry on with all the other things you might view as impossible to ever happen at a republican convention. We all have strengths and weaknesses, and few are immune to propaganda. There seem to be a large number of people who have a peculiar weakness to 'simple' logic and strongmen blowing their own horn.

Anyway, without going into the weeds, let's just take a moment and appreciate that there was a very long and large chain of command that carried out the literal listed example of a war crime on pete's orders. There would absolutely be no issue for them to secure the weapons for a red government that told them to do such a thing.

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What you say is true, but everybody has lost the game if nukes are used. Their states wont be inhabitable either.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's more about the threat, isn't it? If the other side believes you might be suicidally crazy, they might not want to fight the war, even if otherwise it would be a one sided victory.

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The threat indeed, why we had a "nice" cold war, instead of the human ending one. I think both sides would have some amount of them. Not sure how that would play out since we've never had a large scalce war between two nuclear powers. Have only had small limited area, limited troop skirmishes. Like USSR/China near Mongolia and Pakistan/India at various border points. And even more limited is the India/China border skirmishes, that dont even have rifles, but rocks and sticks.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only state that has a separate electrical grid is Texas, and it sucks.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

They are in the process of connecting to the national grid actually. I guess they could just disconnect it again

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

Ironic given that the secessionist Free State Project was instrumental in Tump's political career

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Well I would imagine in such a scenario there would be large upheavals in state gov too. But you're right.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

'You want to punish me? Where was your 'righteous indignity' and your 'laws' when trump was in charge?'

It didn't start with the orange turd, you wannabe "moral" hypocrites.

Go back, far far back and check if any one of the presidents faced serious repercussions.

[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

I'd say the Watergate scandal was pretty significant and still involved consequences (at least compared to now)

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Cant think of any other president acting in bad faith against the people for personal gain, can you?

[–] ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i mean, the bush family has a lot of money in the weapons industry... but they where actually politicians and have plausible deniability between personal gains and political actions.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Did they actively use those, or other govt mechanisms against the american public interest? Im waiting...

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 58 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wouldn't that be a bad financial decision? Am I stupid??

[–] protist@mander.xyz 102 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These are corporate bonds, rather than stocks. They will pay out a fixed amount over a given period of time. One might assume this is a down payment for silence

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 31 points 2 days ago

Oh right, thank you for explaining.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm assuming he didn't so much buy the bonds, but was gifted them.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But why gift him something if he’s going to subpoena you. I’m so confused.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

The subpoena was happening either way. But the bonds are a gift to prevent prosecution. Or at least that's how I read it.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thought the same thing and that's why I'll never be rich.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not like he has a stellar record when it comes to investments.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Even I know that you shouldn't buy shares in a company that you're (for whatever reason) sure will tank in the near future.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Bonds are basically buying shares of a loan to the company, not stock in it. Different risk profile, but also risky if the head of the company is about to be indicated

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In that case you'd buy shorts or if you have an appetite for risk, a contract for difference (CFD) or options

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 2 days ago

Bonds and stocks are very different investment vehicles. In this case it's similar to shorting a stock (betting the price will go down).

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure a decent person in the Nazied States of America will soon bring the orange child rapist to justice. Any moment now one of them will grow a spine and arrest the obese imbecile and the other cronies...

Any minute now
...soon

...just you wait
...
...it'll happen

...mark my words ...
...

... {crickets}

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 days ago

The political class in congress (including the controlled opposition) are doing the same thing themselves. All of them serve the same masters and don't care that the poors are suffering.

This places the responsibility for getting rid of Trump's regime on the American working class. The longer they bury their head in the sand the worse it will get, even if there's a record breaking swing to the Democrats in November - Trump has already proven that he will ignore Congress and simply lock up anyone who stands in his way.

[–] John_CalebBradberton@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can someone find a decent source for this, would love to show it to my Foxnews dad

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Newsweek covers it from a position of ‘he’s profiting off his position’ which doesn’t mention Epstein or buying silence at all.

MSNBC or whatever the fuck they’re called now does make that connection, and links to Bloomberg [paywall] which covers other skeezy profit grabs.