"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
"just tell your LLM not to do that"
You ever ask an LLM to modify a picture and "don't change anything else"? It's going to change other things.
Case in point: https://youtu.be/XnWOVQ7Gtzw
That's why you always add "and no mistakes"
Also "don't hallucinate"
And "don't become self arrest"
What is wrong in the techbrodude head that makes them only think of ruining things? Like it seems to me that they literally spend their days looking at things that are good and saying "what can I do to fuck this up for a profit?"
Should being a techie go into the DSM-V as a subheading under narcissistic personality disorder?
Gotta disrupt to peak bro. Just one more app bro
These fuckin AI "enthusiasts" are just making the rest of the world hate AI more.
Losers who cant achieve anything without AI are just going to keep doing this shit.
Seeing as OpenAI struggled to make its AI avoid the em dash and still hasn't entirely managed to do it, I'm not too worried.
TBF OpenAI are a bunch of idiots running the world's largest ponzi scheme. If DeepMind tried it and failed then...
Well I still wouldn't be surprised, but at least it would be worth citing.
I think the inherit issue is the current "AI" is inherently non-deterministic, so it's impossible to fix these issues totally. You can feed am AI all the data on how to not sound AI, but you need massive amounts of non-AI writing to reinforce that. With AI being so prevalent nowadays you can't guarantee a dataset nowadays is AI free, so you get the old "garbage in garbage out" problem that AI companies cannot solve. I still think generative AI has it's place as a tool, I use it for quick and dirty text manipulation, but it's being applied to every problem we have like it's a magic silver bullet. I'm ranting at this point and I'm going to stop here.
I honestly disagree that it has any use. Being a statistical model with high variance makes it a liability, no matter which task you use it for will produce worse results than a human being and will create new problems that didn't exist before.
Finally! Now all of the "Scientology" histories will be safe! /s
Congrats on inventing what high school students figured out a year ago to skirt AI homework detectors.
I really despise how Claude's creators and users are turning the definition of "skill" from "the ability to use [learned] knowledge to enhance execution" into "a blurb of text that [usefully] constrains a next-token-predictor".
I guess, if you squint, it's akin to how biologists will talk about species "evolving to fit a niche" amongst themselves or how physicists will talk about nature "abhorring a vacuum". At least they aren't talking about a fucking product that benefits from hype to get sold.
I can't help but get secondhand embarrassment whenever I see someone unironically call themselves a "prompt engineer". 🤮
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Isn't this a thing that authoritarians do. They co-opt language. It's the same thing conservatives do. The venn diagram of tech bros and the far right is too close to being a circle.
You can pretty put any word out of the dictionary into a search engine and the first results are some tech company that took the word either as their company name or redefined it into some buzzword.
I am so goddamned tired of AI being shoved into every collective orifice of our society.
You do understand this is more akin to white hat testing, right?
Those who want to exploit this will do it anyway, except they won't publish the result. By making the exploit public, the risk will be known if not mitigated.
I'm admittedly not knowledgeable in White Hat Hacking, but are you supposed to publicize the vulnerability, release a shortcut to exploit it telling people to 'enjoy', or even call the vulnerability handy ?
Responsible disclosure is what a white hat does. You report the bug to whomever is the party responsible for patching and give them time to fix it.
That sort of depends on the situation. Responsible disclosure is for if there is some relevant security hole that is an actual risk to businesses and people, while this here is just "haha look LLMs can now better pretend to write good text if you tell it to". That's not really responsible disclosurable. It's not even specific to one singular product.
So they are using AI to make it so AI can't detect that they are using AI?
What kind of technological ouroborous of nonsense is this?
It gets better. Using llm's to check if the output of an llm is hallucinated or not! They call it a judge and its funny as hell tbh
From the repo:
Have opinions. Don't just report facts - react to them. "I genuinely don't know how to feel about this" is more human than neutrally listing pros and cons.
That will at least be easy to spot in a Wikipedia entry.
Wikipedia is one of the last genuine places on the Internet, and these rat bastards are trying to contaminate that, too
Wikipedia just sold the rights to use Wikipedia for AI training to Microsoft and openai....
It's getting scraped anyway. So why not get some money from it?
Imo this. Selling access also implies its illegal to access without purchasing rights which imho helps undermine AI's only monetary advantage
They lose the right to sue them
They probably realized that it was a losing battle and they didn't want to pay legal fees.
If these "signs of AI writing" are merely linguistic, good for them. This is as accurate as a lie detector (i.e., not accurate) and nobody should use this for any real world decision-making.
The real signs of AI writing are not as easy to fix as just instructing an LLM to "read" an article to avoid them.
As a teacher, all of my grading is now based on in person performances, no tech allowed. Good luck faking that with an LLM. I do not mind if students use an LLM to better prepare for class and exams. But my impression so far is that any other medium (e.g., books, youtube explanation videos) leads to better results.
It's an arms race, AI identification vs AI adaptation. I wonder which side the companies that own these LLMs want to win...
They don't want anyone to win. The arms race makes money.
Fuck you, Siqi Chen.
In French, one of the way to spot AI writing is that sentences will often miss articles or have bad grammar. Can this dude also ask the LLM to include more articles and make complete sentences in the language it's trying to imitate?
I was using the Discover feed on my phone but Google started to insert rewritten stories & headlines by AI and they were so annoyingly bad at making simple sentences in French that it made me stop using that thing.
It can't avoid doing those things. That's the reason for the article.