this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2026

418 points (98.8% liked)

Progressive Politics

4542 readers

510 users here now

Welcome to Progressive Politics! A place for news updates and political discussion from a left perspective. Conservatives and centrists are welcome just try and keep it civil :)

(Sidebar still a work in progress post recommendations if you have them such as reading lists)

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

TokenBoomer@lemmy.world

418

Second amendement amendement (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world

136 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Edit context: Hasan is calling out right-wingers for getting upset about leftists carrying guns.

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 83 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Most leftists don't think all guns are always bad so I'm not sure what value they're supposedly turning on here. Pretty sure the prevailing complaint on the left is about how easy it is to acquire a firearm, not that people have them.

I support people's right to own weapons but it should be a lot harder to purchase and there should be MUCH greater punishments if the weapon you own is used in a shooting (I'm thinking parents of school shooters who poorly secured their guns)

[–] yum_burnt_toast@reddthat.com 97 points 3 months ago (2 children)

i dont think that comment is in reference to leftists turning on an antigun stance but right wing media turning on their hardline 2nd amendment stance to vilify them for it

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ohhh, I guess I interpreted the quoted tweet as positive

[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It helps to have the context of the views of the speak. Hasanabi is a left guy (I had to double check this).

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I knew Hasan was left but not that the quoted tweet was a conservative reporter complaining about it

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I read that as Hasan questioning the MAGAt if there was any value rightoids won't forfeit since they are stereotypically very 2A and now this guy's positing as if owning guns to guard against a tyrannical government is bad.

If he was trying to criticize leftists or liberals, why'd he choose a right wing source of the news to react to?

To be fair, I don't really watch Hasan, so it's possible my interpretation is completely wrong as clarified in one of his streams.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that's how I read it too.

The thing about reactionaries is that they think rules are for other people. It's only hypocritical if one takes them at their word, but they only care about winning points in arguments. They'll argue any position if they can twist it into sounding reasonable, and they'll steal the language of liberation from the left to do so.

Their singular principle is that entrenched power must defend itself, because they know benefits them directly. They sincerely don't care about the second amendment; they don't think it applies to everyone, only "real" Americans who look and act like white supremacists.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 months ago

These people don't understand nuance. If you're against general unrestricted availability of guns, but are not against all availability of guns, you've already lost them, they'll label you as "anti-gun nut" and then be shocked if you say you own a gun, call you "out" on turning on your own convictions.

load more comments (11 replies)

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 71 points 3 months ago (1 children)

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I watched the whole thing he said and was immediately ready to join the Philly Black Panthers. Don't worry about the fact that I'm a MidWest white lady.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (9 children)

You can join the white panthers. The white panthers back up the black panthers

load more comments (8 replies)

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 52 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The Second Amendment is meant for SHOOTING SCHOOLS and TODDLERS SHOOTING PARENTS NOT Protecting your Neighborhoods!

load more comments (3 replies)

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 49 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Go far enough left and you get your guns back.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 18 points 3 months ago

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

― Karl Marx

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Im so goddamn hot for this shit

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Why do people think that's a leftist?

Sounds like every single american who sees cops in their neighborhood and hasn't turned on the news in a couple years.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Liberals don't like guns and Republicans like Ice, so who does that leave?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lots of left leaning people have guns we just don’t make them our entire personality

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

I have four myself. I hate to carry one though. I'm too aware of the responsibility involved. I'd rather be beaten up than kill someone.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I don't like guns. But if you got 'em, use 'em.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It leaves the regular americans who are not into political tags. You know, most of us.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

History books are gonna stick people and movements into categories whether they actively espouse the labels themselves or not, but tbf not reading history books because "we're not like those other countries" is about as American as it gets, so rock on

load more comments (3 replies)

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

"You want to live in a world without the need for guns, yet you use them when necessary. Curious! I am very intelligent."

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

You're not a hypocrite for following the current law and also wanting to change the same law.

One opinion is about what an individual's best choice is, given the situation.

The other is about what laws would be best for a society to have.

What's best for an individual is not always the same as what's best for a group or society.

[–] almost1337@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 months ago

The problem that we frequently run into is people who only want what's best for them at the cost of society, while still wanting full benefits of being a member of said society.

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Reminds me back in the day was browsing a socialist gun subredditt at my brother's house and my brother was shocked. He said "socialist have guns!"

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

― Karl Marx

load more comments (2 replies)

load more comments (3 replies)

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Oh my god! You hypocrite! You are not supposed to fight back! You have morals remember?!?"

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm not a big fan of guns. But fuck these losers for having a problem with people displaying their guns. Suck a donkey dick ya pussies.

load more comments (2 replies)

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every leftist should arm themselves at all times at this point.

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Every protest needs to have a line of armed people standing right in front.

That, more than anything, will make ICE think twice before attacking. (Because they're pussies.)

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The fact that they said "leftists" instead of "liberals" made me think they weren't a right-winger.

Even liberals call most leftists liberals...

I got more context from the thread.

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

you love to see it

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thr media literacy in this thread is sad

load more comments (2 replies)

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Look at him,lefting his leftism all over the left side…

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not even turning in the value. If you talk to most leftist they acknowledge fire arms shouldn't be banned out right. There should just me more control so every raving lunatic who wants one can't.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

This is about the way the right wingers are reacting to leftists taking up arms in the face of tyranny. Not the leftists themselves.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (14 children)

Hate to be that guy, but, legally speaking, that’s a pistol, not a rifle.

If you own guns, or want to, it’s an important distinction to make. That firearm is less than 26 total inches. Minus the suppressor and pistol brace, which are removable and don’t count. Therefore, you can have it loaded in a vehicle.

I’ll also add, it’s more than likely a .300blk AR15 pistol with a suppressor, and if you want to talk about a gun for the people, that’s it. Except for maybe a 12 gauge, I will concede that.

However, in order to carry a pistol, you need a conceal and carry license.

load more comments (14 replies)

load more comments