Disclaimer: of course, everything is a spectrum. To ADHD-people, caffeine has varying effects. Some get tired from it, others it affects less or not at all.
Don’t ever say “16 o’clock” ever again.
this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2026
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Okay, it's gonna be 17 o'clock next time then.
Missed opportunity for 00:30 O'Clock
24:00 o'clock, just to anger everyone
Okay 🤷
But what about 20 o'clock?
Say no more
Most european o'clock 😂
Even for people who can sleep after drinking a ton of caffeine, it so negatively impacts your sleep quality, so you should still avoid it if possible.
aww, but i like power napping
I sometimes have to mortgage my future (sleep) so I can sell my body to th capitalists tho.
Where in the world is it standardized to write times like that?
Europe I guess? We like 24h time
Do you guys say "16 o'clock?" I'm used to the 24h tube since I live in Japan, but I find myself always going back to 12h like I did in Canada where I grew up. So saying 16 o'clock in English sounds a bit unnatural for me. But I also have no problem saying 16 heure in French. Old habits die hard I guess.
I say "sechzehn Uhr" but drop the "Uhr" when adding Minutes ("sechzehn dreißig" for 16:30), except before 13:00 ("neun Uhr" for 09:00 and "neun Uhr dreißig" for 09:30) because it flows more easily. But some people keep the "Uhr" even after 13:00 (it's the official way).
Written standard though is to put "Uhr" behind all the numbers ("neun Uhr dreißig" is written as "09:30 Uhr").
Where I am I'll write 16:00 and read it aloud as "4 o'clock"
That's my preferred method as well. I like 24 hr time for writing but I'd never say it out loud, May e bc I didn't grow up saying it.
I'm from English speaking Canada and I'm doubling down on 24h and metric.
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Look at them europeans bragging about their ability to count beyond 12 hours!
/s (I'm european too, I find it funny that people get confused with 24h time format)
Its not the 24 hr time, its saying it with "o clock" that's weird
1435 hours AM
16'o'clock is still weird AF.
This is not true for all of Europe however!
O'clock is pretty british. HH:MM is normal in the more civilised areas of Europe (aka the rest of Europe).
Generally O'Clock is used with a 12 hour clock and AM/PM is implied by context, if you need specificity use millitary time (i.e 24 hr clock - 1600). As an Australian I find 16 O'Clock a bit jarring.
I'm from Europe. I use a 24h-clock but not military time. Military time is an anglophone thing I don't care about since I'm not in the military. And frankly, I don't care much about how Australians or US-Americans or English people find my time and date formats or any other unit or measurement jarring, because you guys rarely agree on any kind of measurements, so I use metrics, a 24h-clock (maybe add an "o'clock" because it reads nicer to me) and dd.mm.yy(yy) instead of stones, pounds, feet or freedoms per square ketchup ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Whatever, you do you. We're 100% metric btw.
We're 100% metric btw.
Canada, UK and USA aren't, at least not in colloquial language. That's what I mean. You post something in english and always meet someone from some anglophone country doing it differently. So I stopped caring.
So what’s wrong with kg for weighing things, st & lb for people, miles for driving distance, metres for building things, C for temperature and feet for ascent of hills and stuff? That’s what a 70’s born UK kid thinks like. So 16:15 is said out loud, quarter past four, maybe rarely 1615, but never 16 o’clock and? No. O’clock is only on the hour. If it’s got bits on the end you say everything except the ‘o’clock’ But I love what you’ve done with ‘half-four’ to mean 3.30. I really enjoy doing that with my German colleagues.
So what’s wrong with kg for weighing things, st & lb for people, miles for driving distance, metres for building things, C for temperature and feet for ascent of hills and stuff?
What's right about it?
But I love what you’ve done with ‘half-four’ to mean 3.30. I really enjoy doing that with my German colleagues.
That's not exclusively german though as germanic languages in general and some slavic languages use this format.
First of, in Europe we use ISO 8601, which is quite different from the military time which the USA uses.
Second, in my home country we still say "16 on the clock" or "15:45 on the clock" (just translated to the native language, eg. "Klokken 16") to signify we're talking time and not weight or distance.
You said
O’clock is pretty british
I was speaking to that (Australia is very similar).
military time is NOT 24 hour time! Stop mixing the two.
military time doesn't use minutes and hours but rather merges the two - 16:45 becomes 1645, and so on.
24 hour time still distincts minutes and hours.
Valid, but hardly deserving of significant argument. Actually considered that in my original post but decided that it gets the point across. I now regret the whole thing, ppl take it way too seriously.
Peace, out.
100% this. I was going to post what you said as well. But I will add that in the US, if you use 24 hour time, most people just refer to it as military time. If you tell them the difference they don't really care.
In the US 24h is virtually never used in a civil context, but in scientific, engineering, and medical contexts it is ubiquitous.
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Caffeine used to make me sleepy. I'd often have a cup straight before bed. As I get older it doesn't have such a noticable effect on my but even black sugarless coffee really makes low blood sugar issues worse. If I drink it first thing in the morning and eat anything sugarry I'll crash 20 minutes later.
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I get a small rush for a few hours and then crash, usually helps me sleep better in the long run.
I get nothing from it, still feel tired and sleepy. But it stops me from sleeping, it's the worst of both worlds
Sucks dude. Though at least ur not relying on monster ig. It does help me, but maybe that's not such a good thing after all.
I get that too. I can have an energy drink and a coffee in the morning and still feel the need to sleep, but if I do much as have a small cup of tea late at night I don’t sleep.
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I have severe adult adhd and this has never been the case for me.
It was funny, at a work meeting a few months ago someone was having some coffee, and the director and a bunch of others chimed in that if they had coffee that late (11am) they wouldn’t be able to sleep later.
Those lucid dreams I had after drinking a sugar free monster after dinner were something else.
It's funny how much if a spectrum there is. My wife gets stuck awake if she has caffeine after 3pm, and I have fallen asleep on nodoze more than once.
With some late/extreme stages of ADHD you basically need to drink coffee to go to sleep and consume sleeping pills to not to.
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