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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

I have severe adult adhd and this has never been the case for me.

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Caffeine used to make me sleepy. I'd often have a cup straight before bed. As I get older it doesn't have such a noticable effect on my but even black sugarless coffee really makes low blood sugar issues worse. If I drink it first thing in the morning and eat anything sugarry I'll crash 20 minutes later.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I used to have the same problem with those Starbucks frape drinks in the glass bottles when I was younger.

I can't drink caffeine anymore but eventually the effects had the intended result.

man...I miss caffeine...

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 38 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Don’t ever say “16 o’clock” ever again.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, it's gonna be 17 o'clock next time then.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Missed opportunity for 00:30 O'Clock

[–] Hellstormy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

24.5 o'clock

[–] halfdane@piefed.social 10 points 6 hours ago

Okay 🤷

But what about 20 o'clock?

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 4 points 4 hours ago

It was funny, at a work meeting a few months ago someone was having some coffee, and the director and a bunch of others chimed in that if they had coffee that late (11am) they wouldn’t be able to sleep later.

[–] ImWaitingForRetcons@lemmy.world 26 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Even for people who can sleep after drinking a ton of caffeine, it so negatively impacts your sleep quality, so you should still avoid it if possible.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I sometimes have to mortgage my future (sleep) so I can sell my body to th capitalists tho.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 hours ago

aww, but i like power napping

[–] s@piefed.world 12 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Where in the world is it standardized to write times like that?

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 15 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

Europe I guess? We like 24h time

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Do you guys say "16 o'clock?" I'm used to the 24h tube since I live in Japan, but I find myself always going back to 12h like I did in Canada where I grew up. So saying 16 o'clock in English sounds a bit unnatural for me. But I also have no problem saying 16 heure in French. Old habits die hard I guess.

[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

I'm from English speaking Canada and I'm doubling down on 24h and metric.

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Where I am I'll write 16:00 and read it aloud as "4 o'clock"

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I say "sechzehn Uhr" but drop the "Uhr" when adding Minutes ("sechzehn dreißig" for 16:30), except before 13:00 ("neun Uhr" for 09:00 and "neun Uhr dreißig" for 09:30) because it flows more easily. But some people keep the "Uhr" even after 13:00 (it's the official way).
Written standard though is to put "Uhr" behind all the numbers ("neun Uhr dreißig" is written as "09:30 Uhr").

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

16 hours is the "official"/military way to say it

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

16 hours is mostly an American military way to say it. 16 on the clock (or similar for different languages) is the main European way to say it.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well, we'd say 4 o clock... But that's English too. Have considered how the rest of Europe says it?

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

I have to confess that I do not know how every European language says it, but I do know that both German and Danish say and write the equivalent of "o' clock/on the clock", eg. "Klokken, Uhr".

The only time I've seen "x hours" used, is either in programming, that abomination that is "military time", or when defining time from now, eg. "Let's meet in 4 hours, at 20 on the clock".

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Look at them europeans bragging about their ability to count beyond 12 hours!

/s (I'm european too, I find it funny that people get confused with 24h time format)

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Its not the 24 hr time, its saying it with "o clock" that's weird

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

1435 hours AM

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 2 points 6 hours ago

16'o'clock is still weird AF.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

O'clock is pretty british. HH:MM is normal in the more civilised areas of Europe (aka the rest of Europe).

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

Generally O'Clock is used with a 12 hour clock and AM/PM is implied by context, if you need specificity use millitary time (i.e 24 hr clock - 1600). As an Australian I find 16 O'Clock a bit jarring.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm from Europe. I use a 24h-clock but not military time. Military time is an anglophone thing I don't care about since I'm not in the military. And frankly, I don't care much about how Australians or US-Americans or English people find my time and date formats or any other unit or measurement jarring, because you guys rarely agree on any kind of measurements, so I use metrics, a 24h-clock (maybe add an "o'clock" because it reads nicer to me) and dd.mm.yy(yy) instead of stones, pounds, feet or freedoms per square ketchup ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Whatever, you do you. We're 100% metric btw.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We're 100% metric btw.

Canada, UK and USA aren't, at least not in colloquial language. That's what I mean. You post something in english and always meet someone from some anglophone country doing it differently. So I stopped caring.

[–] waz@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

So what’s wrong with kg for weighing things, st & lb for people, miles for driving distance, metres for building things, C for temperature and feet for ascent of hills and stuff? That’s what a 70’s born UK kid thinks like. So 16:15 is said out loud, quarter past four, maybe rarely 1615, but never 16 o’clock and? No. O’clock is only on the hour. If it’s got bits on the end you say everything except the ‘o’clock’ But I love what you’ve done with ‘half-four’ to mean 3.30. I really enjoy doing that with my German colleagues.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

So what’s wrong with kg for weighing things, st & lb for people, miles for driving distance, metres for building things, C for temperature and feet for ascent of hills and stuff?

What's right about it?

But I love what you’ve done with ‘half-four’ to mean 3.30. I really enjoy doing that with my German colleagues.

That's not exclusively german though as germanic languages in general and some slavic languages use this format.

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

First of, in Europe we use ISO 8601, which is quite different from the military time which the USA uses.

Second, in my home country we still say "16 on the clock" or "15:45 on the clock" (just translated to the native language, eg. "Klokken 16") to signify we're talking time and not weight or distance.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 hours ago

You said

O’clock is pretty british

I was speaking to that (Australia is very similar).

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 5 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

military time is NOT 24 hour time! Stop mixing the two.

military time doesn't use minutes and hours but rather merges the two - 16:45 becomes 1645, and so on.

24 hour time still distincts minutes and hours.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 hours ago

Valid, but hardly deserving of significant argument. Actually considered that in my original post but decided that it gets the point across. I now regret the whole thing, ppl take it way too seriously.

Peace, out.

[–] folekaule@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

100% this. I was going to post what you said as well. But I will add that in the US, if you use 24 hour time, most people just refer to it as military time. If you tell them the difference they don't really care.

In the US 24h is virtually never used in a civil context, but in scientific, engineering, and medical contexts it is ubiquitous.

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

TV time and military time don't even use 24 hours. You can have a TV show that goes from 23:30 to 25:15 (25>24, in 24h it would be 01:15).

I imagine those who call 24h "military time" also say "I'll be home from work on Friday at 4100 AM", which makes about the same amount of sense.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I wish.

Maybe when I was young.

No I'm looking at giving up the caffeine totally because of old age, ADHD or not.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

It's funny how much if a spectrum there is. My wife gets stuck awake if she has caffeine after 3pm, and I have fallen asleep on nodoze more than once.

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I get a small rush for a few hours and then crash, usually helps me sleep better in the long run.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I get nothing from it, still feel tired and sleepy. But it stops me from sleeping, it's the worst of both worlds

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Sucks dude. Though at least ur not relying on monster ig. It does help me, but maybe that's not such a good thing after all.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Those lucid dreams I had after drinking a sugar free monster after dinner were something else.