Progressive Politics

What is he even doing on his show?

E: And yes, it is state sponsored terrorism. They're legit terrorising people. They're doing things against the constitution. Against the law. 

I don't think Newsom has a chance in hell of winning the Democratic primary. Calling him the "frontrunner" is just fluff, the primaries are still over two years away

I have no love for Newsom, and don't doubt this post's premise, but the video also cuts off before he actually gets to respond; it just shows him nodding along saying "yup" as Ben is talking before (presumably) responding with actual words. I'm curious what was actually said when it was his turn to speak.

Hes got Bill Maher energy, hopefully he loses the primary or is somehow unable to compete. Trash.

Holy shit that guys voice is more annoying then neck boy

You might be able to argue that the shooting originally was not state sponsored terrorism. (I would say yes, but there is an argument there)

But once the President and VP and HS Sec. tell you to not believe what we all can see on video, once the investigation in quashed, once the response becomes higher ICE presence instead of de-escalation, then it becomes state sponsored terrorism. Even steelmanning it, I cannot see a reasonable argument against that.

If Gavin Newsom is the person the Democratic party chooses for their nominee I will not be voting. I do not fucking care. Having him will be exactly the same as having JD Vance or whoever the fuck the Republicans throw up into their slot.

I don't think being the only one making it incredibly obvious he's trying to pander because he wants to run, makes him a favorite by default. He's still shit

Do you think Trump would have changed his story? More likely he would have doubled down. But Newsome just chickens out. We already have one of those in the White House. What a putz, what a MAGA-Lite

If we are ever going to take this country from MAGA, AND KEEP IT THIS TIME, we have to be as rhetorical as they are. If Dems were doing even 10% of what ICE is doing, they would be screaming as loud as possible, using all sorts of colorful coded dog whistles. We have to embrace propaganda in our own way, and wield it effectively.

After the insurrection, when people were calling it a riot, or a mob, etc., I was reminding people all day, every day, to refer to it as an Insurrection, because it was the language used in the 14th Amendment, Section 3, to prohibit those who have participated in an Insurrection at prohibited from holding elected office. The Dems blew that GOLDEN opportunity of course, but it did get secured in the mind of the public as an Insurrection, and we can take another run at the supporters later.

When this is over, the only way we will be able to crush, and prohibit MAGA, and purge it from our government and society, is to declare it a serious, ongoing National Security Threat, and their members as Domestic Terrorists. Normally that would be crazy rhetoric to be spouting, and the MAGAs have said such, and much worse, about Dems forever, but in MAGA's case, it is true, demonstrable, and undeniable.

MAGA has been the sponsor of a violent, deadly Insurrection, the theft of hundreds of classified documents and state secrets, mind-boggling open corruption, incompetent economic policy, violent colonialism, and much, much more. There are many, many examples of all of these things, and they are NOT in dispute, even among MAGAs. They approve of this kleptokakistocracy, so their wishes can't be respected, any more than we would respect the opinions of Al Capone's buddies about his criminal behavior. We know who he is, we don't need to hear rationalizations from the criminals who benefit by his criminality.

If a FOREIGN country was sponsoring Insurrections, stealing classified documents, etc., we would deal with it harshly, perhaps even violently, perhaps even with a War, but they won't go after MAGA, that wouldn't be polite, and being polite is an OBSSESSION among establishment Dems like Newsome.

We need to designate all of MAGA as an ongoing, unapologetic, enthusiastic National Security Threat, starting NOW. They have made it clear that we are going to destroy all of our alliances, and keep antagonizing the rest of the planet until SOMEONE strikes back. This is obvious, and predictable, and most of all, INEVITABLE.

So let's start using and establishing the language, vocabulary, and definitions that will serve us and benefit us when this is over, and we are trying to figure out how to move forward. At that point we need America to support the end of MAGA, and it starts by declaring them Domestic Terrorists, and National Security Threat, and being unapologetic about it. Then, when this is over, we won't have to compete with MAGA defenses on the most basic charges. They will already be fixed in the minds of Americans, and it will just look like the MAGAs are tap-dancing.

When some doofus like Ben Shapiro asks for confirmation of that, any Dem needs to OWN it and should forcefully, confidentially repeat his statement that MAGA is a Domestic Terrorist Organization and a serious National Security Threat, and the next president's first priority will be the effective crushing and purging MAGA.

In fact, that's MY personal litmus test for future Democratic candidates: If you aren't serious about making the end of MAGA your top priority for your next term (and beyond), then you are ineligible to run for office, in my opinion.

Can you imagine if we had let Hitler off the hook, and allowed him to regain power a few years later? That's what we did, with the whole world watching. We can't squander the next opportunity. We must act decisively.

That starts with declaring them a serious ongoing National Security Threat, and Domestic Terrorism, and standing proud for saying it, and encouraging others to say it, too.