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[–] Atlas_@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

You might be able to argue that the shooting originally was not state sponsored terrorism. (I would say yes, but there is an argument there)

But once the President and VP and HS Sec. tell you to not believe what we all can see on video, once the investigation in quashed, once the response becomes higher ICE presence instead of de-escalation, then it becomes state sponsored terrorism. Even steelmanning it, I cannot see a reasonable argument against that.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

Hes got Bill Maher energy, hopefully he loses the primary or is somehow unable to compete. Trash.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

What is he even doing on his show?

E: And yes, it is state sponsored terrorism. They're legit terrorising people. They're doing things against the constitution. Against the law. 

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Simping for conservative voters.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Yep. Same strategy as Hillary Clinton, same strategy as Kamala Harris. It's a real winning strategy he's got there.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

The problem is it's not obvious that it won't work. Being a black women all else being equal loses you easily 5 percent of votes on its own. That's an election. Newsome is a tall handsome white dude. People won't have trouble "seeing him behind the desk".

Trump and MAGA , in the midst of destroying the country , are also dragging the Overton window further right. The shittier they behave, the less the DNC feels the need for any radical change. Unfortunately, they could easily be right.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

The problem is that centrists don't care if it doesn't work, as long as progressives aren't allowed to run.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 7 hours ago

My dude, the only good things about Kamala are that she's black, and she's a woman.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

If it weren't for covid, Joe Biden would have lost in 2020.

Newsome is younger yes. But he carries the same attitude towards policy as Joe Biden. And he won't be running against Trump who is also old. He'll be running against somebody like JD Vance who is in the same age bracket (or younger I'm not even sure how old that couch fucker is).

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

If it weren’t for covid, Joe Biden would have lost in 2020.

And even then, he had to promise a bunch of shit he never intended to do in order to get the left on board.

Which he then (surprise!) didn't do, which killed the party's credibility.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I personally think there's going to be at least an attempt at a palace coup by Ron DeSantis once Trump is gone. He's getting older, and he's ambitious. I'm pretty sure he'll beat Vance if he gets any momentum.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

Eh I feel like he's a broken reed at this point. Abbott is a much stronger challenger but then again i doubt he'd be able to win nationally.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I don't think Newsom has a chance in hell of winning the Democratic primary. Calling him the "frontrunner" is just fluff, the primaries are still over two years away

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t think Newsom has a chance in hell of winning the Democratic primary.

I don't think we'll be given a choice this time either.

[–] protist@mander.xyz -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you're right. I don't have any reason to trust democrats.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

They have a proven track record of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Fixed. Fucking swipe to text.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Old people are the most likely to vote in primaries and the media will keep telling them how amazing and moderate he is especially as he keep the usual failing Democrat strategy of chasing conservatives that would vote for a Democrat, you know, people that don't exist. I'm pretty sure we're going to have him forced down our throats.

:(

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Based on what?

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

the primaries are still over two years away

Don't remind me

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have no love for Newsom, and don't doubt this post's premise, but the video also cuts off before he actually gets to respond; it just shows him nodding along saying "yup" as Ben is talking before (presumably) responding with actual words. I'm curious what was actually said when it was his turn to speak.

[–] Atlas_@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I did the ugly needful. He talked in general terms but didn't really address this comment past this point.

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Thank you for looking!

[–] sausager@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Holy shit that guys voice is more annoying then neck boy

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

He talks fast and with confidence so no-one has time to notice how stupid what he's saying is.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

If Gavin Newsom is the person the Democratic party chooses for their nominee I will not be voting. I do not fucking care. Having him will be exactly the same as having JD Vance or whoever the fuck the Republicans throw up into their slot.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago

I hope it's not familiar. I hope they learn that running these kind of candidates will lead to defeat instead of just losing every time like idiots.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

I got out and voted for both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris in the general election for President. We're still in the situation we're in right now.

At some point the Democratic party needs to be forced to realize that appealing to the right is not going to win them anything.

[–] dogbert@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago

It’s the candidates job to win your vote. Run a shitty candidate, you will lose.

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

Look, either vote or riot, don't diddle in the middle!

[–] dogbert@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Enjoy your 3rd Trump term America 🤣

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 7 hours ago

I like your optimism that it won't leak past America.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If there is one thing Democrats candidates are good at it's getting Republicans to win....

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I don't think being the only one making it incredibly obvious he's trying to pander because he wants to run, makes him a favorite by default. He's still shit