leave it be. there ain't any one reason for the influx of new users or the absence thereof. do your thing to the best of your ability and if you happen to stumble onto something better along the way, that's a job for then. for now, it does its job.
Lemmy
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"You remember when people were generally nice on the internet?"
The best sentence will depend on the target audience. Is there a way to know who would be that audience?
Also, responding more directly to your question, I've got a frame challenge: What about two or three short sentences, like what Mastodon does?
A platform that is truly democratic. You choose your feed. You choose where to host your account.
A platform where you're truly free. You choose your feed. You choose where to host your account.
A platform that can't enshittify. You choose your feed. You choose where to host your account.
That third one I like, because it's a differentiator that Lemmy has in comparison with ButterflyX or whatever Jack the Twitter Guy is working on right now. Lemmy is not at risk of enshitifying, unlike ButterflyX.
Also, here's a take where I tried to make no reference to electronics:
A bustling room filled with tables, each filled with people talking about what they find interesting, where the conversation topics are always chosen by the table and always changing, and where you're free to set up your own tables with your own topics.
or, more succinctly,
A bustling room filled with tables, where each table is filled with people talking about what they find interesting, a room where you're free to set up your own tables with your own topics.
And also, happy cake day, @nutomic@lemmy.ml!
I'd love to edit my previous post but I don't wanna spam you.
As to target audiences, I think it could be helpful to specify the personas that we're building the sentences for. Does the persona know what the Fediverse is? Do they know what enshittification is? Do they know what open source is? Do they have strong opinions about surveillance capitalism (even if they don't know the word for it)? Or are they clueless regarding all of these topics?
My suggestion assumes some knowledge of these topics. To be clear, if I'd single out a suggestion of mine, it'd be:
A discussion platform that can't enshittify. You choose your feed. You choose where to host your account.
Forum for the fediverse
Cool stuff from the web & interesting conversations, no charge, and signing up is easier than you've been led to believe.
Lemmy: Wow that's a lot of communists
"A forum for the Fediverse" is my preference
Since the redditors came? /pol/ but worse. Before the redditors? The golden era of fediposts.
People will not understand anything technical about a website. They will only understand what content readily available.
Too long; Didn't read: Read last paragraph.
We need to understand the target audience if we want to get a good description. Speaking for myself, I would set the target audience to chronically online people who want to leave corporate walldoms, but I'd also choose a type of communication that focus on the actual service instead of comparing it to other serices. I'd not copy paste description from inspiration source. I'd be willing to reimagine what it is that we are developing.
I'd use communication that is less branded, and more understanding of the soul of the service. Its like saying "orange soda" instead of "fanta", "search engine" instead of "google" or "car" instead of "Toyota". The difference is by using this kind of language, we move ourselves away from dependency on the producers towards dependency on the tool.
Understanding the soul also requires that we have a culturally connected understanding of that which we discuss. That is to use less technical communication and more down to earth communication. To not play into sophistication. Less abbreviations, less techno jargon, more plain english, more understanding the equivalents of real life. For example, in the Gemini Protocol of small web, they use the word "capsule" instead of "instance", which it feel more physical and more real. "Instance" on the other hand makes it sound like a computer thing and not related to reality.
About the soul, we should ask ourselves what the service feels like. Lemmy feels like small townhalls, or like a guy in the street yelling "Guys! What do you think of this drawing." Perhaps a little gossipy or something like that. Ask yourself, what does lemmy feel like for you? Or what do you want lemmy to feel like? From here I choose "townhall" simply because it works for the purpose.
The above example also gives weight to the idea of physicality. When something feels physical, it feels real, and we feel drawn to it. In contrast, the abstract "instance" makes it more of a curiosity. We can talk of "towns", "homes" or "hives" instead of "instances". We can talk of "continents" of loosely connected hives instead of fediverse of platforms of instances. From here I choose "hive" because it distinguishes itself clearly to prevent misunderstandings.
With the physicality and smallness of "hive", we can also encourage small scale thinking. Because no hives has a million bees. If you see a hive of a million inhabitants, you are going to be drawn towards smaller hives.
I'd also center the attention away from platforms and towards the hives and their interconnectedness. In this way we emphasize the decentralization aspect. The willingness to associate with other hives. I frame this as a hive being "open".
This means we can talk of fediverse instances as open hives. Mastodon becomes shortletter hives, pixelfed becomes open gallery hive, peertube becomes open video hive.
So to be blunt, I'd suggest open townhall hive.
Lemmy is an open townhall hive that offers public sharing of links, letters and images.
Communities, free from corporations.
Share and comment in communities, free from corporations
Lemmy is an open-source social network that functions as a global web of independent forums, allowing you to interact with a federation of sites where no single entity holds total control.
Edit: I think it flows a little better without "next-generation" so I removed it.
This one is too long, I would only use the first part:
Lemmy is an open-source social network that functions as a global web of independent forums
Whatever works mate 💚
I'm not saying your sentence is inaccurate, but send that description to a regular person and it will either cause their eyes to glaze over or cause them to run in the other direction.
It is what it is. I didn't want to spend all day thinking about it so I posted what came to mind. If it helps, cool.
The decentralized forum for countless communities
Build communities without the middle men.
It's really hard to know what to focus on. Here's my best shot:
A discussion platform for communities.
Not bad, but I personally don't like centering the attention on platforms because then we are drawing attention away from the instances. By centering attention on instances, we normalize instances and allow them to thrive.
I'd say something in the direction of Discussion Instances for communities.
people don't know what instance means. they aren't all object oriented programmers.
Sounds good, but I would keep the Fediverse in somehow, eg "A federated discussion platform for communities".
My friends still think fediverse are for federal agents.
I think leave the federation out, it just confuses new people. People who don't know what the Fediverse is won't understand what federated means, and those who do understand likely don't need to be told Lemmy is federated.
Still its the main feature. Plus the sentence is a bit short like this. Or mention that it is open source instead.
I very much like the simplicity of "A discussion platform for communities". If one wants to highlight the one feature that sets Lemmy apart from others, then adding "decentralised" would do the job for me. As others have already said, I am not using "federated" because that can only be used when "federation" is a known word, which it absolutely is not. If you understand "federation", then you probably already know about Lemmy. So,
"Lemmy, a decentralised discussion platform for communities".
“Lemmy, a decentralised discussion platform for communities”.
I like this one the most out of all the ones I've read here up to now.
I would honestly drop the "link aggregator" part completely and just call it "discussion forum" or "discussion platform". "Link aggregator" sounds pretty technical and like it just collects links which seems almost pointless. And the links aren't even mandatory when creating a post.
Lemmy: the Mastadon of Reddit.
Absolutely no way, this will never work. It should be "Lemmy: the Mastodon of Reddit"
it's decentralized reddit. or better yet, a decentralized network of forums.
i usually make the email analogy, where you can use any provider to access the same email network preventing vendor lock-in, but i don't think that's very catchy.
"Decentralized network of forums" is probably the best way I've heard it described, as an elder millennial who grew up on multiple disparate forums.
The email analogy doesn't resonate with me because I, as a Gmail user have less than nothing in common with any other Gmail user. On the other hand, the idea of being able to log into my car enthusiast forum and interact seamlessly with people from a video game enthusiast forum is much closer to how I think the ideal Lemmy experience would go.
social media without the censorship
Seize the means of communication /s
I agree that federation is the central feature of Lemmy, besides it being libre software, however the term "federation" is something that already requires a newcomer to open up a search engine at best or get scared by the unknown and leave at worst.
It should exist, but in very layman's terms, something like:
"A social platform for independent online communities of all topics, owned by people and not corporations, all in one place"
Mastodon also does a pretty good job on their main page, it's easily understandable by anyone, and scrolling down gives you a much better picture of what it really does if you are interested enough to learn.
I think the main problem is "link aggregator" which doesn't make a lot of sense as the main function is discussion. For a minimal change you could go for "a discussion platform for the fediverse".
If "fediverse" is too obscure; you could try just "a decentralised discussion platform". Decentralised isn't technical, you can't fully describe the fediverse in a sentence but "decentralised" gives a clue.
Think results based for the end user and not technically.
- A place to find your people
- A place to find your community
- A place to converse in the fediverse
- A place to find your interests
- A place to share your interests and find new ones
- A place to discuss anything with anyone
- A community of digital communities
- A modern digital discussion forum to share ideas in interest groups called communities
Social media for the antisocial.
No tears from peers, a place to leer without fear (No corporate ears.)
Link aggregation without the agitation.
Look at stuff. Do things. No ads.
These are more like taglines.