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[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 48 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

I applaud the sentiment, but uhm… I don't think the comparison is helpful. Fighting external enemies is very different from fighting fascism from within. The "the state champions freedom" vs "the state is tyranny" kind of different.

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 52 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Like… our main problem today is not guns and ships.

The main problem is media, i.e. the propaganda system that keeps MAGAts happy to shoot themselves in the foot.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The Conservative Propaganda Machine.

Before this is over, it will have to dealt with as the National Security Threat it is.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

keeps ~~MAGAts~~ everyone happy to shoot themselves in the foot.

Imagine living through the last 30 years and honestly thinking you weren't voting for your own decimating because you picked the blue fascist team.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Obama had all the power he needed to stop the WoT, the Patriot Act, the militarization of police, and the corruption of Wall Street in its tracks, but nope.

The ruling stating that presidents have complete immunity from persecution for acts taken in the official capacity as president, in which the judges made it clear that could even include assassinating political rivals, did not pass during Trump's administration.

It passed during Biden's administration. The Supreme Court basically told him "you can assassinate Trump and nothing would happen to you." He didn't even pursue him for persecution.

Democrats are not just useless, they're complicit.

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But you are the media in this world. Everybody here is generating media everyday. Traditional media was replaced with Facebook and Twitter and reddit. How many leftist removed themselves from there? Is it any surprise that the whole world seems like it's using right wing talking points anymore. The left fucked themselves and most still don't get what has happened here

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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Better if it shows a Confederate soldier?

We will beat them again. It's just a question of how much suffering until then, and how much we actually root out the ideology.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Reconstruction was never truly complete and allowed for a full range of "compromises". The attitude and feelings remained the same.

Quite sad that 175 years later and the arguments have changed very little.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

To give some context to how little it's changed even in rhetoric. Confederate leaders were fear mongering about socialism.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I didn't do shit because I wasn't alive then. And clearly they're not gone, because here they are. But you may note that slavery is illegal now. Not enough but not nothing. If you want to doom keep it to yourself.

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[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

They forfeited the right to be called my countrymen when they spat on the founding principles of the nation. They are foreign to the American ideal.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah but they don't have an entire world of countries using guns and bombs to tell them that.

Fighting fascism is a whole lot easier when it decides to start a world War, every other instance they just continue on within their own borders.

[–] sausager@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We're trying to avoid the whole world war part but it'll come if these assholes continue

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately if a world war comes it will likely be to bomb civilians while the megacorps make deals with all parties to stay clear of their production lines...

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Then we blow up the production lines with fireworks if need be.

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[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are foreign to the American ideal.

What ideal would that be? Manifest Destiny, the genocidal land theft from indigenous people followed by enslaving Africans to build the nation?

This is America, and underneath the rhetoric and the eagles, always has been America. You've just been brainwashed into believing otherwise.

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The founding principles of the nation are might makes right and don't whine, there's no truth nor justice in the world, and the US has behaved exactly that way from their Anglo-Saxon conception by crusading into America annihilating the locals, then enjoying slavery, then destabilising nations around the world post WW2 power reshuffle, pillaging, murdering and raping their way across the land for geopolitical and financial advantages. In the little time it's been a thing, it's accumulated sins for thousands of years. Get real, man, if you know any moral, righteous, prosocial and selfless Americans (maybe yourself included!) they are so despite their culture, not because of it.

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[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not to mention that America inspired the Nazis, and after we "beat them", we hired them to run NASA and NATO...

[–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe the weapon is being held by a European liberator

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

65 million people died in Europe alone. Facism has a profound price paid in blood by the working class while the ruling class benefits.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the non-violent protests has been largely ineffective , it just shows that there is no resistance when they use violence. the last thing the people at top want, rich people is rioting.

[–] RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

turns out Minneapolis shouldnt gave given up their guns, huh....

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But only after they have already killed millions.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

Every third generation after the event apparently.

[–] Darkness343@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You didn't beat them before. Your grandparents did.

Can grandpa fight again?

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Grandparent age people are who voted ice in lmfao great grandparents were world war 2 folks nowday

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[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe, but it’s up to us now. Let’s make our grandparents proud

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

One of these would be fun
Georgian protester brings a fireworks gatling gun
but ICE would probably fire back with real bullets.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Holy shit that thing just kept going!

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Gonna need more than a stick and a sheet of poster board

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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