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[Meta] RE: Starfleet Academy (piefed.world)

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Hey crew! The new Star Trek show Starfleet Academy is starting this week, and it’s already sparking some heated/controversial discussions online. While opinions may differ, let’s keep our community a safe space where everyone can enjoy the series without fear of harassment or attacks.

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[+] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

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[–] moleverine@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My issue is primarily the poor writing. SNW was the bright spot among the live action new shows, but it really feels like it’s nosediving in terms of writing quality.

I don’t expect new Trek to be the same as 90’s Trek, but it really feels like it’s written by writers who are not all that interested in Trek and just want to make a contemporary drama with a delta on it. Earlier series had a “period piece set in the future” vibe that I really miss.

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 1 points 4 months ago

Can they even be allowed to actually chalenge systems of domination? There's big money behind nutrek, it makes sense they only push for mediocre and safe writing and flashy "magical" special effects.

[–] nuclear_wizard@startrek.website 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'll agree that Star Trek at its best has always had a progressive stance that challenges societal expectations, but the problem with nuTrek (imo) is that the writing isn't challenging expectations reflecting society at large, or examining it's own biases, it's just performative and pandering. It doesn't seem to be written to encourage questioning as much as it appeals to nostalgia or engage in pleading the "right social perspective" that Hollywood happens to espouse that week. For God's sake Elon was one of the "innovators" used as an example in DISCO when SpaceX happened to be popular.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

All Trek is woke. Always was.

If anything, I'd argue it to have the reverse problem, where it's been gradually less progressive over time, since the network isn't as willing to take risks with the property, now it's a relatively safe cash cow.

Where's the Star Trek show that people threaten to pull off the air because it is at the social cutting edge?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Also, Star Trek is owned by MAGA now. It's aimed directly at their most desirable and important recruiting demographic, so they are going to transition it to be a mouthpiece for the Conservative Propaganda Machine.

[–] hallettj@leminal.space 24 points 4 months ago

And remember that every Trek series since TOS has seen a reaction claiming, "This ruins the franchise!" It takes time to make the mental journey from, "this is not what I wanted", to appreciating a new work on its own merits.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

The best part about Trek fandom is how unserious people are “allowed” to be.

[–] teft@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'll watch it because I love trek and even bad trek is more trek.
But I'm hopeful because Paul Giamatti is an amazing actor and a half klingon/half tellarite sounds amazing.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'll watch it because I love trek and even bad trek is more trek.

That is just... Not a smart thing to do. Just mindlessly consuming stuff that's bad because it's part of a franchise you like leads to more bad media of that franchise being published. Be critical! Be brave enough to draw a line and keep it!

[–] teft@piefed.social 6 points 4 months ago

Meh, you do you. I'll watch what I want to watch and that is trek even if it's bad trek.

[–] autonomous@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

it's too late for that, so many have become lazy and complacent. they are beyond help and only aid paramount in it's goal of grounding the series on a sandbar like some boat, and then blaming the fans.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

even bad trek is more trek.

What this attitude tells executives is "guess we don't need to bother trying to make Trek good, they'll eat up whatever we shovel their way."

I'm a big fan of Star Trek. That's why I haven't watched anything other than Lower Decks since Discovery started airing.

[–] teft@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My viewing habits aren't scrutinized by them so I'm not too worried.

I subscribe to an Orion holorecording stream.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This guy is low-key the Gowron of the Orions. I kind of hope he shows up again in one of the two later seasons.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Not unless his cooking improves.

Would also like an update on Captain Angel's antics since her escape.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm just happy to have another Star Trek show to watch. I'll at least give it a chance to prove itself before hating it.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 4 months ago

Unless it does something egregious, I'll probably push myself through it no matter what for the sake of completionism.

Speaking of which, I need to do that for Disco's last couple seasons before I start the show.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I want 10,000 Raising Arizona based memes by EOD Friday.

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago

I won't watch it, because sadly I lost all hope in modern Trek ever getting good again, but I'll enjoy all of your memes.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 5 points 4 months ago

I get the complaints of lackluster writing in SNW S3, but also, you haven't seen truly bad media until you've watched either Twisters or Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, which makes Discovery season 2 seem downright straightforward and well-written by comparison.

It's not the best consolation, but it could go much worse. Also, I feel like if I had a choice, I'd take being strapped to a chair and forced to watch SNW season 3 looped 2.5 times over the same for TNG season 1.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 months ago

::: spoiler spoiler Starfleet Academy sucks.