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I upgraded from my 15 year old PC to one of the new Mac Minis at Xmas last year, thinking that I would be fine for gaming with my Xbox / Game Pass, and I would "skip a generation" on PC hardware. I have a small Steam / Epic library, but everything that didn't work on MacOS, I had a Game Pass version of.

Fast forward a year. Xbox shit itself, RAM and GPU prices / 2026 outlook are dismal, etc etc

What's my best option going forward for gaming? The only option I see right now is cloud gaming like GeForceNOW, but it seems like such a ripoff.

Any advice?

Edit- a lot of people are fixating on GamePass. I canceled my GamePass sub when the price went up. I no longer have it.

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[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Game Pass sounds great, but the average game play time is ~2 weeks. You're paying $240–480/year to skim the surface of multiple games.

That's a lot for what is essentially a demo experience. There are better ways to approach gaming.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Get a Steam Deck? You can hook it up like a PC, use it sat around. Though its not a powerhouse. Wait and see how the Steam Machine fairs? There's still a good second hand market for parts too.

Its a shitty time at the moment with scumbag companies and AI, so consumers are completely fucked.

Also: Fuck subscriptions.
Plus the game pass versions of games are complete dogshit compared to the Steam versions most of the time.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

Steam Machine will be priced "like a PC" so, not really a solution either.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've consistently refused to buy in to Game Pass. I still buy physical games where available. If it's only digital, I'll get the Steam version for my Steam Deck.

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[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The moment Game Pass wouldn't let me cheese the system and get it for like $1-2 a month, I quit bothering with it. I knew they were trying to get people hooked and raise prices. It was only like a year later and then even my friends canceled theirs.

I buy games heavily on sale, or sail the seas.

Luckily my gaming PC is more than good enough to ride out the next 5 years. knocks on wood. 5800X3D + 6800 XT.

For anyone else cross your fingers the GabeCube isn't too expensive $$$.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sure what to tell you, but a Mac is the last platform to go to for gaming. Apple has zero interest in gaming and have made the platform virtually hostile to gaming development.

Steam regularly has sales (really good sales, like under $5) for fairly modern games (within the last 10 years).

Wait for a sale on something like an AMD Beelink and use that.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like I replied to another comment, the Mac was necessary for work (art and music) and was light years ahead of anything else that can be obtained at its price point ($575).

Thanks for the Beelink rec, though.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

you are seriously limited on the selection of games you can play with Apple silicon

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Does Proton even work on Macs? It seems pretty clear at this point Linux is a far better gaming OS.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, that would be FEX. And support for Apple Silicon is currently on the roadmap. So maybe in a couple of years.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Steam Deck is the answer for now. You may still be able to get one of the discontinued LCD models on the cheap, but GamePass is now as expensive as buying a game every month, so it’s better to buy than subscribe. They also make excellent PCs and homelab devices. We bought several LCD versions for the lab instead of Pi 5s, because they are such a good deal.

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Check Craigslist, FB Marketplace, Letgo--just general classifieds. Can generally find decent deals on 1 to 2 generation old PCs, especially if you're near a US Military installation or college.

Edit: just checked Boulder's CL--10700k, 3080, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, and 850w PSU and a 27in, 1440p, IPS Monitor for $1000

[–] BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

I turned 360 degrees around and installed bazzite

[–] Rumo161@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Switching to Bazzite (a Linux Distro, made for gaming). No Ragrets so far

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think bazzite runs on ARM macs.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It looks like it doesn't support ARM architecture systems at all, or anything other than x86_64.

https://docs.bazzite.gg/Gaming/Hardware_compatibility_for_gaming/

Minimum System Requirements

  • Architecture: x86_64
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[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I don't know you, but I have more games in my library than gaming hours in a month. I haven't touched anything released in the past three years, and mostly replay older games and emulators. The entire PS1 and PS2 library, as well as Nintendo 64, GBA, DS, etc... can be played on your fridge, and you can pirate those games for free, or buy their remasters (if they's any) for cheap.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cloud gaming is financially contributing to the end goal of turning hardware ownership into a rental service, so I'm staying away from that. Even if it can't be stopped I don't want to add to the funds endorsing it.

I think the way forward is to just be fine with older hardware and getting less demanding newer titles. There's those who only game on a Steam Deck, and been happy with it. Emulating old games is an option too.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have a look at the Heroic Launcher. I remember reading it included a feature to play some Windows games in compatibility mode or something?

Apart from that I guess it's Geforce Now, Amazon Luna etc...

[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Can confirm.

Most games I run on Heroic are free giveaways from Epic. Those are, to the best of my knowledge, all Windows. Heroic handles the compatibility with Proton, similar to how Steam does it. With a fancypants workaround you can even install Sims 4 as a direct game exe, and well, you can run any program from it if you really wanted

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

Here's an idea that won't cost anything: Browser games! There are tons of great Incremental games playable for free on a browser, and plenty of other games too.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

That's the old price. GamePass Ultimate went up briefly from $14.99 to $19.99 then doubled (from its original price) to $29.99 per month.

I got locked in at the original price. Better yet, I got the GamePass All Access deal right before it went away. That gets you the $500 Xbox Series X and 2 years of GamePass Ultimate for about 35 bucks a month. If you consider GPU to be $15 a month, that pushes the Xbox down to $480. Not a bad deal at all! You get the Xbox and a 24-month code straight up and make payments (it's a credit card with 0% interest for that purchase, so you have to qualify for it). That's why I have an XSX and not a PS5 like I would have liked. I couldn't come up with $500 straight up for a PS5, but I could make $35 a month for 2 years plus I got GamePass.

I still game on my Xbox (I'm a Mac user on computers — we got Cyberpunk and Blue Prince last year, and I own both on Steam, but they play better on my Xbox). I just buy games on sale. I got the Mass Effect Legendary Edition (remaster of the Shepard trilogy) for $6. That sale is still on. They also have Mass Effect 4 for $3 (or $4 for Deluxe) and the first one (OG 360 version) for $5. Bought all of it. Love those games. I got Hogwarts Legacy for $10. That nasty trans-hating Harry Potter author didn't have any input in the game and in fact it has a bunch of gay couples and a trans character to spite her. I really don't like her views and avoided the game for a couple years, but I'm hooked. I love flying around and exploring the castle. I also play Switch games. Those tend to last longer than PC/Xbox games. My wife got Animal Crossing last year and burned out after a couple weeks. I still check in on my island a few times a week. It's honestly a lovely game.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Some friends at work started up a patient-gamer-style Pokémon book club. It's been four months and we're almost done Pokémon Black/White (which may sound impressive except that we started with Pokémon Black/White)
My point is: there's basically an unlimited number of good games that run on old hardware. Not that retro Nintendo hardware is cheap these days, but if you've got some lying around...

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[–] locahosr443@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Probably a steam deck as they are yet to be hit by the mega price hikes.

Once they are, abandon any thoughts of gaming for a while I guess.

This is only going one way until the ai bubble bursts.

[–] lath@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago

Take a break. Go outside. Enjoy nature.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago

What's my best option going forward for gaming?

Probably the same as always: look for a good deal on a used PC. Or buy all the used components and slot them together. The former is usually a better value.

[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 month ago

I'm not. You can still buy valid 12 month Xbox Live Gold subscriptions for under £40, close to the £36 before Game Pass took over. Fuck the new price. The Gold codes translate to Game Pass Core. But if you want Ultimate, well don't let me get between your lips and Microsoft's expensive arsehole

[–] pory@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Never paid a subscription in the first place.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Wasn't Game Pass like $6/mo on PC not too long ago? Who's paying $20 for this crap? The game selection isn't even that good.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago
[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Check craig's list and FB market place for used parts and hardware. Did you save your old PC? You could still play older titles with it as well as some newer indie games that don't need lots of processing power. If a new PC is a must, purchase the parts as you can afford them then assemble the machine once you have what you need.

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Older and or used hardware is gonna be a place to start for CPU and GPU. Used dell optiplex can get you most of the way there, then buy a decent GPU when you can. Just make sure it fits in the case and the PSU that comes with the optiplex can handle the power draw. I'd recommend a new PSU though. Dont buy used for PSU or storage is the best advice I can give.

Optiplex are not gonna get you top of the line performance or anything but it'll be a lot better than nothing and you can always use it for something else later like a nas, a server, home theater PC, etc.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As you already have a Mac, have you looked into Crossover?

So far as I understand, the work that CodeWeavers do with it is the basis for what Valve have done with Proton, so it's the closest you'll get to Proton on macOS. I've seen people running RDR2 on Macs with it. It's a reasonable outlay, but it could be a useful tool for running a whole bunch of Windows-only titles via Steam.

There is also Whisky, which is to all intents and purposes, a free version of Crossover, albeit (intentionally) a couple of Wine versions behind so as to not detract from what Crossover does. I've used Whisky a bunch to play Windows games on my M2 Macbook, and while it's not been perfect, and will likely struggle with brand new, AAA games, older titles should work nicely.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Play old games, I guess? Arc Raiders is one of the only new games I’ve played in a long time. Recently got an Xbox one to play the golden age cod games.

[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe wait for the Steam Machine

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[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You don't NEED new stuff to play games. My computer is pushing 8 years old, I just upgrade the nvme or graphics card when needed. I got a refurb 3070 last year for $450 with warranty, can get one on Amazon now for under $300 without warranty. You don't need 64gb to play games, 16 is plenty and you can get motherboards that use ddr4 fairly cheap.

Look around, second hand market is fine, just very the parts. This 3070 will last me a few years minimum.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Mac is great for emulators, so you have that.

Also mac native games, like ones you can buy on the App Store (cyberpunk etc.) run great on most M chip macs.

Also, Crossover might be a solution for some games. It works for most games fine, some work great, and some don’t work at all.

There’s also other cloud gaming services, where you can emulate a whole computer and just download steam games. Most are cheaper than gamepass 🤷‍♂️

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