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This movie was pretty good. Actually felt like a breath of fresh air compared to Marvelslop and Snyderslop.
Superman actually felt like Superman. Lex felt like a billionaire. The Justice Gang was great. I loved that Hawkgirl actually killed the Netanyahu.
It just needed more Clark time like the old movies. Christopher Reeves is still the best Clark Kent by a mile.
Tangentially related but I wish they did a superman movie where it was him stopping world-ending phenomena and giant monsters in rapid succession.
They gave superman every power in the book. Why yes, I want to see an 8 minute sequence of him turning back a mountain-sized tsunami.
Have lex luthor raise a Kaiju from the deep, clark's in some kryptonite stockade to build tension, and then at the last second he flies like a missile into the thing's chest and starts fighting it by pushing back it's punches and other insane wide-shot choreography that feels really massive psyical and weighty.
Unless they do that all the time and I should actually watch Superman movies then I should sit my ass down and listen.
1A! 1A! 1A!!!!
This movie was great. Gunn in peak liberal USian brain denied that it was an allegory for the Palestinian genocide and struggle, but it honestly fits it perfectly. Hawkgirl actually killing discount Netanyahu was not something I expected lol, but I'm glad it happened. Also I don't know much about Guy Gardner, only that he's kinda of hated, right? But honestly I liked him, dude was just funny lol.
I think this feels like something fresh because Snyder movies have a really weird aesthetic that I think tainted DC's heroes. Probably has to do with the whole discussion about his aesthetic being kind of fascistic, tho I haven't really read on it yet. I only watched 300 in recent years, but I didn't get what everyone else saw in that movie, in fact it just weirded me out mostly, and it's probably because of that aesthetic.
Idk about the fascist aesthetic but Synders version of superheros was just too gruesome.
He made his characters for ripping off the Batman vs Superman comic which required them to be dark but it doesn't work out for a justice league movie.
Superman was kinda insane and quite literally just caused immense destruction without any sort of care.
Batman literally killed people.
Gal Gadot.
That too definitely, I was talking more in very broad terms about the movies. These versions of the characters can work, but it shouldn't have been them when trying to create a cinematic universe.
IDF Gadot can fuck off tho
Movie was pretty good, I liked the comedic relief of the dog and the extended superhero cast of D listers really came together.
That being said this movie specifically has the weirdest discourse surrounding it. I think the overly-invested comic audience that came with the movie came prepared to hyper analyze the weirdest details of the movie to compare & contrast to Snyder.
Like, filter discussions back to the release day of the movie and you'll see the strongest praises for the weird cutaway scenes where Superman saves a dog or a squirrel or mugs the camera with some outdated 1950s charm. Not in any smart or creative way, just Superman saving animals & people and stuff.
I genuinely have a hard time believing people are in the cinemas to see those scenes, but you'd get the impression they were based off the discourse.
I think it's a big example of Diegetic essentialism causing a cultural fixation on the wrong parts of media. If Snyder never made his Superman movies I don't think people would care how many squirrels Superman saves.
Punkrocker was peak.
Honestly I was cheering when he was actually trying to save people and animals instead of destroying the entire city.
It was absolutely necessary to solidify the character as Superman after what Snyder did to people's perception of Superman.
The whole point of the scene of him saving the squirrel is what it reveals about his character, not just that he’s saving a random squirrel. It’s showing how even when there’s literal buildings collapsing around him (if I’m remembering correctly) he’ll still give everything he has to protect everything he can. This ties into the punk rock, the radical empathy he shows where he tries to understand and protect even his enemies.
The point wasn't lost on me, it was the discourse surrounding it. It almost felt as if the (online commentary) audience missed the point of these scenes and saw them instead as Superman's 'essence.'
superman doing good guy shit is character building, but it's also a fuck you to snyder's version.
This is kind of what I mean. It's not a 'fuck you' to Snyder's version. It's just a good movie. Superman saves people because that's what he does & is part of his narratives, it wasn't an epic own on the version of the movie you didn't like.
I think the movie is denigrated so much by the 'he saved a squirrel epic snyder dunk' discourse. There's so much more to talk about than Superman being a cornball.
media doesn't exist in a vacuum, this one is absolutely a response to the fascist shit and not understanding the character of the previous ones.
I don't think Gunn was actually trying to attack the Snyder movies. First of all, they are friends and have worked on films together. Second, I don't think it's all Snyder's fault. Some of it is, certainly, but I think a big problem for Man of Steel and the Snyderverse was the success of the Dark Knight trilogy. I'm pretty sure execs at WB pushed on Snyder to make it dark and gritty to match those movies. If anything it's a response to them.
I think what Superman 2025 does is reject the idea of 'everything is morally gray so it's okay to not do anything to make the world a better place' that is endemic not just to the Snyderverse, but also Marvel, and movies in general.
"diegetic essentialism' would be a good username
Reeves is the GOAT