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[–] Krem@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Americans looking at a city that is at worst a little bit boring looking: Americans when 80% of the land area is not parking lots: Americans when the land area that is not parking lots also isn't only insurance office buildings: Americans when multi-unit housing: Americans when people don't live in little bungalow theme parks that can only be accessed by privately owned cars:

Look at this Urban Hellscape

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Don't forget about the lack of golf courses.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm silly, but it kind of looks like a lategame city-builder city, to an extent that I usually don't think of cities as looking like. I guess it's just because of how it looks like it was so heavily planned.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are a lot of places like this in China, often a new planned suburb or district like a half hour drive from the regular city, and planned to house new government buildings, large event centers, new high speed rail stations, airports etc.

They often have this look with wide straight roads, massive intersections, and lots of residential buildings that aren't occupied yet, and lack of small businesses, which is why western media calls them ghost cities i guess

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The concept of building anything before people need it is unthinkable to the Western mind.

You're supposed to restrict access to housing so the streets fill up with homeless people!

[–] Clippy@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

China has solved the housing crisis, but at what cost?

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, 2.1 million GHOSTS! Bet you're scared of China now!

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

The secret to China's military might is that they use the Skeleton Converter to get both a skeleton and a ghost from each troop, doubling their personnel

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ngl that design is really bad cuz car centric

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

it’s a ghost town because everyone fucking died in car accidents

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Isn't there a little train line along black yellow striped missing texture thing.

But yeah those roads look super annoying to cross as a pedestrian.

[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago

So that's where the spectre of communism lives.

[–] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm feeling pedantic today, so enjoy a little geography lesson:

"Ordos City" is more like a province or prefecture, spanning an area the size of South Carolina or Azerbaijan and having multiple cities of similar sizes. Much of China is like this, "prefecture-level cities" that also have "county-level cities" beneath them.

The "ghost city" isn't Ordos as a whole but the Kangbashi New Area, which was planned for a population of 300,000 and had an estimated population of 153,000 in 2017, according to Wade Shepard in Forbes .

The photo in the OP is from Dongsheng, the biggest city in Ordos whose population is 572,000 and which had the seat of government before it moved to Kangbashi. Fortunately, Kangbashi looks similar so it's not a big deal, here's a photo of it:

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

TIL 2.1 million is a β€œghost city”.

Like if we were also comparing between how many people are in both China (1,412,175,000) and Burgerland(340,110,998)…this city is roughly as populated as Atlanta is in relation to overall population. This is hardly a yeehaw podunk town. Not the biggest but not the smallest either.

[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

watching these redditors jerkin at each other kinda gives me ptsd. i was inured when i waded thru reddit daily but the baseline animosity and smug ignorance drippin offa every comment's just too much to bear anymore

reminds me how lucky i am to have found this place at least

why the fuck did they design a highway median that could be seen from fucking space

[–] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't tell what the split on that arterial is. Is that a protected pedestrian/bike lane or dedicated public transit lane? It seems like the 6 lanes on the left are for cars. The right lane on the other side of the huge grass median is for what? There is that nice park/green space as a buffer between the commercial center and the arterial but the only pedestrian connectivity seems to be sidewalks? I wonder if there are any tunnels between the residence area and that green space. There don't seem to be any bridges. Though the residences seem to have some mixed use so maybe it's not all bad if you can still get to the amenities you need without crossing a 6 lane road. Crossing that 8 lane seems like a nightmare for abuela.

I wonder if they would ever encroach on that green space for a highway. That whole band seems like leaving room for future expansion. It would suck to grow up with that park and then lose it to a highway. Even at the intersection it looks like they left room for an interchange.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

IME those are bike/scooter lanes but they tend to become unofficial parking spaces for cars and then unofficial bypass car lanes for "smart" people during busy traffic times

[–] AF_R@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Imagine being born in the US instead of being some random ethnic Mongolian literally living in paradise in the shadow of Temujin, unknowing of the horrors of the rest of the world